just got my courtesy notice in the mail
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just got my courtesy notice in the mail
yeah the notice they send you when u get a ticket. Ok now tell me if this sound right..This ticket was given to me for my Hondata banner on the windsheild and looking at my intake
$$$$431.00 WTF is that about?\
supoosedly the light can hit the lettering in a certain way and cause me to crash. adn my intake is a blue AEM futhermore
$$$$431.00 WTF is that about?\
supoosedly the light can hit the lettering in a certain way and cause me to crash. adn my intake is a blue AEM futhermore
Originally posted by VNlilMAN
$400 shouldnt it atleast be a fix-it ticket?
$400 shouldnt it atleast be a fix-it ticket?
at most is what i believe you meant to say...but i agree....bring that to court and just tell them that you were unaware of the laws regaurding to what you've done to your car and make it known that it is completely fixable....causes then they will prob just make you fix it and check in a week or so..that's what they ended up making my friend do to his supra...
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26708(a)(s)opaque lettering on windsheild
27156(h) modified emissions
26708(a)(s)opaque lettering on windsheild
27156(h) modified emissions
and the 1st code...its proply some random # that he thought at the moment
FIGHT !!!!!
ROFLMAO!!!! OPAQUE LETTERING!?!?! OMFG i think ima **** my pants laughing at that ****!!! if it's opaque? how the F*CK is it going to refract light if its opaque??? HAHAHA
No doubt bro, fight it with all you've got, photocopy a physics book about light and reflection/refraction...that cop is gonna get PWNED!!
and if you live in CA, then the cops will give u that stupid fixit ticket for intakes regardless of whether or not its carb legal, you'll just have to fight it...that's the problem with california emmissions, they'll ticket u either way, and u'll have to take time to go in and fight it, but you'll win the case, that's for sure, its just that you'll have to waste time to go to court n stuff
No doubt bro, fight it with all you've got, photocopy a physics book about light and reflection/refraction...that cop is gonna get PWNED!!
and if you live in CA, then the cops will give u that stupid fixit ticket for intakes regardless of whether or not its carb legal, you'll just have to fight it...that's the problem with california emmissions, they'll ticket u either way, and u'll have to take time to go in and fight it, but you'll win the case, that's for sure, its just that you'll have to waste time to go to court n stuff
Hmm so if i get a ticket for exhaust can i fight it? As long as it is lower than 95 db and can pass smog, technically it should be legal.. cuz i know im gonna get a ticket for my wrx, i just put an exhaust on it
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Rep Power: 403 yea that is a real code, i think its really stupid, you can just fight the AEM one, and the other one, just say if it does reflect it will reflect and a angle in a upward way because of the lights. no one unless they are in a 30 foot high 4x4 will be blinded by it. you can also say it blocked most of the sun out of ur eyes. u can even go to ur eye doctor and get him to sign a perscription that says u need to have this because ur eyes are very sensitive.
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Rep Power: 350 Vehicle Code 27608A
26708. (a) (1) No person shall drive any motor vehicle with any
object or material placed, displayed, installed, affixed, or applied
upon the windshield or side or rear windows.
(2) No person shall drive any motor vehicle with any object or
material placed, displayed, installed, affixed, or applied in or upon
the vehicle which obstructs or reduces the driver's clear view
through the windshield or side windows.
(3) This subdivision applies to a person driving a motor vehicle
with the driver's clear vision through the windshield, or side or
rear windows, obstructed by snow or ice.
(b) This section does not apply to any of the following:
(1) Rearview mirrors.
(2) Adjustable nontransparent sunvisors which are mounted forward
of the side windows and are not attached to the glass.
(3) Signs, stickers, or other materials which are displayed in a
7-inch square in the lower corner of the windshield farthest removed
from the driver, signs, stickers, or other materials which are
displayed in a 7-inch square in the lower corner of the rear window
farthest removed from the driver, or signs, stickers, or other
materials which are displayed in a 5-inch square in the lower corner
of the windshield nearest the driver.
(4) Side windows which are to the rear of the driver.
(5) Direction, destination, or termini signs upon a passenger
common carrier motor vehicle or a schoolbus, if those signs do not
interfere with the driver's clear view of approaching traffic.
(6) Rear window wiper motor.
(7) Rear trunk lid handle or hinges.
(8) The rear window or windows, when the motor vehicle is equipped
with outside mirrors on both the left- and right-hand sides of the
vehicle that are so located as to reflect to the driver a view of the
highway through each mirror for a distance of at least 200 feet to
the rear of the vehicle.
(9) A clear, transparent lens affixed to the side window opposite
the driver on a vehicle greater than 80 inches in width and which
occupies an area not exceeding 50 square inches of the lowest corner
toward the rear of that window and which provides the driver with a
wide-angle view through the lens.
(10) Sun screening devices meeting the requirements of Section
26708.2 installed on the side windows on either side of the vehicle's
front seat, if the driver or a passenger in the front seat has in
his or her possession a letter or other document signed by a licensed
physician and surgeon certifying that the person must be shaded from
the sun due to a medical condition, or has in his or her possession
a letter or other document signed by a licensed optometrist
certifying that the person must be shaded from the sun due to a
visual condition. The devices authorized by this paragraph shall not
be used during darkness.
(11) An electronic communication device affixed to the center
uppermost portion of the interior of a windshield within an area that
is not greater than 5 inches square, if the device provides either
of the following:
(A) The capability for enforcement facilities of the Department of
the California Highway Patrol to communicate with a vehicle equipped
with the device.
(B) The capability for electronic toll and traffic management on
public or private roads or facilities.
(c) Notwithstanding subdivision (a), transparent material may be
installed, affixed, or applied to the topmost portion of the
windshield if the following conditions apply:
(1) The bottom edge of the material is at least 29 inches above
the undepressed driver's seat when measured from a point 5 inches in
front of the bottom of the backrest with the driver's seat in its
rearmost and lowermost position with the vehicle on a level surface.
(2) The material is not red or amber in color.
(3) There is no opaque lettering on the material and any other
lettering does not affect primary colors or distort vision through
the windshield.
(4) The material does not reflect sunlight or headlight glare into
the eyes of occupants of oncoming or following vehicles to any
greater extent than the windshield without the material.
(d) Notwithstanding subdivision (a), clear, colorless, and
transparent material may be installed, affixed, or applied to the
front side windows, located to the immediate left and right of the
front seat if the following conditions are met:
(1) The material has a minimum visible light transmittance of 88
percent.
(2) The window glazing with the material applied meets all
requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard No. 205 (49
C.F.R. 571.205), including the specified minimum light transmittance
of 70 percent and the abrasion resistance of AS-14 glazing, as
specified in that federal standard.
(3) The material is designed and manufactured to enhance the
ability of the existing window glass to block the sun's harmful
ultraviolet A rays.
(4) The driver has in his or her possession, or within the
vehicle, a certificate signed by the installing company certifying
that the windows with the material installed meet the requirements of
this subdivision and identifies the installing company and the
material's manufacturer by full name and street address, or, if the
material was installed by the vehicle owner, a certificate signed by
the material's manufacturer certifying that the windows with the
material installed according to manufacturer's instructions meets the
requirements of this subdivision and identifies the material's
manufacturer by full name and street address.
(5) If the material described in this subdivision tears or
bubbles, or is otherwise worn to prohibit clear vision, it shall be
removed or replaced.
26708. (a) (1) No person shall drive any motor vehicle with any
object or material placed, displayed, installed, affixed, or applied
upon the windshield or side or rear windows.
(2) No person shall drive any motor vehicle with any object or
material placed, displayed, installed, affixed, or applied in or upon
the vehicle which obstructs or reduces the driver's clear view
through the windshield or side windows.
(3) This subdivision applies to a person driving a motor vehicle
with the driver's clear vision through the windshield, or side or
rear windows, obstructed by snow or ice.
(b) This section does not apply to any of the following:
(1) Rearview mirrors.
(2) Adjustable nontransparent sunvisors which are mounted forward
of the side windows and are not attached to the glass.
(3) Signs, stickers, or other materials which are displayed in a
7-inch square in the lower corner of the windshield farthest removed
from the driver, signs, stickers, or other materials which are
displayed in a 7-inch square in the lower corner of the rear window
farthest removed from the driver, or signs, stickers, or other
materials which are displayed in a 5-inch square in the lower corner
of the windshield nearest the driver.
(4) Side windows which are to the rear of the driver.
(5) Direction, destination, or termini signs upon a passenger
common carrier motor vehicle or a schoolbus, if those signs do not
interfere with the driver's clear view of approaching traffic.
(6) Rear window wiper motor.
(7) Rear trunk lid handle or hinges.
(8) The rear window or windows, when the motor vehicle is equipped
with outside mirrors on both the left- and right-hand sides of the
vehicle that are so located as to reflect to the driver a view of the
highway through each mirror for a distance of at least 200 feet to
the rear of the vehicle.
(9) A clear, transparent lens affixed to the side window opposite
the driver on a vehicle greater than 80 inches in width and which
occupies an area not exceeding 50 square inches of the lowest corner
toward the rear of that window and which provides the driver with a
wide-angle view through the lens.
(10) Sun screening devices meeting the requirements of Section
26708.2 installed on the side windows on either side of the vehicle's
front seat, if the driver or a passenger in the front seat has in
his or her possession a letter or other document signed by a licensed
physician and surgeon certifying that the person must be shaded from
the sun due to a medical condition, or has in his or her possession
a letter or other document signed by a licensed optometrist
certifying that the person must be shaded from the sun due to a
visual condition. The devices authorized by this paragraph shall not
be used during darkness.
(11) An electronic communication device affixed to the center
uppermost portion of the interior of a windshield within an area that
is not greater than 5 inches square, if the device provides either
of the following:
(A) The capability for enforcement facilities of the Department of
the California Highway Patrol to communicate with a vehicle equipped
with the device.
(B) The capability for electronic toll and traffic management on
public or private roads or facilities.
(c) Notwithstanding subdivision (a), transparent material may be
installed, affixed, or applied to the topmost portion of the
windshield if the following conditions apply:
(1) The bottom edge of the material is at least 29 inches above
the undepressed driver's seat when measured from a point 5 inches in
front of the bottom of the backrest with the driver's seat in its
rearmost and lowermost position with the vehicle on a level surface.
(2) The material is not red or amber in color.
(3) There is no opaque lettering on the material and any other
lettering does not affect primary colors or distort vision through
the windshield.
(4) The material does not reflect sunlight or headlight glare into
the eyes of occupants of oncoming or following vehicles to any
greater extent than the windshield without the material.
(d) Notwithstanding subdivision (a), clear, colorless, and
transparent material may be installed, affixed, or applied to the
front side windows, located to the immediate left and right of the
front seat if the following conditions are met:
(1) The material has a minimum visible light transmittance of 88
percent.
(2) The window glazing with the material applied meets all
requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard No. 205 (49
C.F.R. 571.205), including the specified minimum light transmittance
of 70 percent and the abrasion resistance of AS-14 glazing, as
specified in that federal standard.
(3) The material is designed and manufactured to enhance the
ability of the existing window glass to block the sun's harmful
ultraviolet A rays.
(4) The driver has in his or her possession, or within the
vehicle, a certificate signed by the installing company certifying
that the windows with the material installed meet the requirements of
this subdivision and identifies the installing company and the
material's manufacturer by full name and street address, or, if the
material was installed by the vehicle owner, a certificate signed by
the material's manufacturer certifying that the windows with the
material installed according to manufacturer's instructions meets the
requirements of this subdivision and identifies the material's
manufacturer by full name and street address.
(5) If the material described in this subdivision tears or
bubbles, or is otherwise worn to prohibit clear vision, it shall be
removed or replaced.
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Rep Power: 350 Vehicle Code 27156
27156. (a) No person shall operate or leave standing upon any
highway any motor vehicle which is a gross polluter, as defined in
Section 39032.5 of the Health and Safety Code.
(b) No person shall operate or leave standing upon any highway any
motor vehicle which is required to be equipped with a motor vehicle
pollution control device under Part 5 (commencing with Section 43000)
of Division 26 of the Health and Safety Code or any other certified
motor vehicle pollution control device required by any other state
law or any rule or regulation adopted pursuant to that law, or
required to be equipped with a motor vehicle pollution control device
pursuant to the National Emission Standards Act (42 U.S.C. Secs.
1857f-1 to 1857f-7, inclusive) and the standards and regulations
adopted pursuant to that federal act, unless the motor vehicle is
equipped with the required motor vehicle pollution control device
which is correctly installed and in operating condition. No person
shall disconnect, modify, or alter any such required device.
(c) No person shall install, sell, offer for sale, or advertise
any device, apparatus, or mechanism intended for use with, or as a
part of, any required motor vehicle pollution control device or
system which alters or modifies the original design or performance of
any such motor vehicle pollution control device or system.
(d) If the court finds that a person has willfully violated this
section, the court shall impose the maximum fine that may be imposed
in the case, and no part of the fine may be suspended.
(e) "Willfully," as used in this section, has the same meaning as
the meaning of that word prescribed in Section 7 of the Penal Code.
(f) No person shall operate a vehicle after notice by a traffic
officer that the vehicle is not equipped with the required certified
motor vehicle pollution control device correctly installed in
operating condition, except as may be necessary to return the vehicle
to the residence or place of business of the owner or driver or to a
garage, until the vehicle has been properly equipped with such a
device.
(g) The notice to appear issued or complaint filed for a violation
of this section shall require that the person to whom the notice to
appear is issued or against whom the complaint is filed produce proof
of correction pursuant to Section 40150 or proof of exemption
pursuant to Section 4000.1 or 4000.2.
(h) This section shall not apply to an alteration, modification,
or modifying device, apparatus, or mechanism found by resolution of
the State Air Resources Board to do either of the following:
(1) Not to reduce the effectiveness of any required motor vehicle
pollution control device.
(2) To result in emissions from any such modified or altered
vehicle which are at levels which comply with existing state or
federal standards for that model year of the vehicle being modified
or converted.
(i) This section applies to motor vehicles of the United States or
its agencies, to the extent authorized by federal law.
27156. (a) No person shall operate or leave standing upon any
highway any motor vehicle which is a gross polluter, as defined in
Section 39032.5 of the Health and Safety Code.
(b) No person shall operate or leave standing upon any highway any
motor vehicle which is required to be equipped with a motor vehicle
pollution control device under Part 5 (commencing with Section 43000)
of Division 26 of the Health and Safety Code or any other certified
motor vehicle pollution control device required by any other state
law or any rule or regulation adopted pursuant to that law, or
required to be equipped with a motor vehicle pollution control device
pursuant to the National Emission Standards Act (42 U.S.C. Secs.
1857f-1 to 1857f-7, inclusive) and the standards and regulations
adopted pursuant to that federal act, unless the motor vehicle is
equipped with the required motor vehicle pollution control device
which is correctly installed and in operating condition. No person
shall disconnect, modify, or alter any such required device.
(c) No person shall install, sell, offer for sale, or advertise
any device, apparatus, or mechanism intended for use with, or as a
part of, any required motor vehicle pollution control device or
system which alters or modifies the original design or performance of
any such motor vehicle pollution control device or system.
(d) If the court finds that a person has willfully violated this
section, the court shall impose the maximum fine that may be imposed
in the case, and no part of the fine may be suspended.
(e) "Willfully," as used in this section, has the same meaning as
the meaning of that word prescribed in Section 7 of the Penal Code.
(f) No person shall operate a vehicle after notice by a traffic
officer that the vehicle is not equipped with the required certified
motor vehicle pollution control device correctly installed in
operating condition, except as may be necessary to return the vehicle
to the residence or place of business of the owner or driver or to a
garage, until the vehicle has been properly equipped with such a
device.
(g) The notice to appear issued or complaint filed for a violation
of this section shall require that the person to whom the notice to
appear is issued or against whom the complaint is filed produce proof
of correction pursuant to Section 40150 or proof of exemption
pursuant to Section 4000.1 or 4000.2.
(h) This section shall not apply to an alteration, modification,
or modifying device, apparatus, or mechanism found by resolution of
the State Air Resources Board to do either of the following:
(1) Not to reduce the effectiveness of any required motor vehicle
pollution control device.
(2) To result in emissions from any such modified or altered
vehicle which are at levels which comply with existing state or
federal standards for that model year of the vehicle being modified
or converted.
(i) This section applies to motor vehicles of the United States or
its agencies, to the extent authorized by federal law.
Originally posted by HondaLuver
yea that is a real code, i think its really stupid, you can just fight the AEM one, and the other one, just say if it does reflect it will reflect and a angle in a upward way because of the lights. no one unless they are in a 30 foot high 4x4 will be blinded by it. you can also say it blocked most of the sun out of ur eyes. u can even go to ur eye doctor and get him to sign a perscription that says u need to have this because ur eyes are very sensitive.
yea that is a real code, i think its really stupid, you can just fight the AEM one, and the other one, just say if it does reflect it will reflect and a angle in a upward way because of the lights. no one unless they are in a 30 foot high 4x4 will be blinded by it. you can also say it blocked most of the sun out of ur eyes. u can even go to ur eye doctor and get him to sign a perscription that says u need to have this because ur eyes are very sensitive.
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Rep Power: 350 So he got the right ones down, the fighting the AEM one is a piece of cake, the lettering one will be interesting. Its a BS ticket without a doubt, but its just another way that they will try to get $$$ from us.
Oh yeah, BTW, they have all these codes on their squad car so usually they dont make em up, they just take a good guess.
Oh yeah, BTW, they have all these codes on their squad car so usually they dont make em up, they just take a good guess.
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Rep Power: 301 yea that is bs....i remember my mom got a ticket for having a buddist hanging thing on her rear view mirror for light reflecting on it...that is so stupid everyone has that **** and i see ppl with way more stuff hanging from their rear views. She ended up fighting it and won so thats good. Just fight it man.
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Rep Power: 321 FIGHT IT BRO, ALL THE WAY, THOSE R FIXIT TICKETS...DIRTY *** COP...SAME DEAL HAPPEN TO ME. I WENT TO THE COURT FOR THE CITY THAT ISSUIED THE TICKET AND SPOKE TO THE CLERK BEHIND THE WINDOW, HE TOLD ME THAT THE OFFICER WAS WRONG IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN A FIXIT AND AND WAS CORRECTABLE AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN MARKED SO ON THE TICKET...HE SENT ME TO THERE SHERRIF STATION AND THEY SIGNED IT OFF FOR ME ( IT WAS FOR BLUE LIGHTS ) ANY WAYS TO SAY THE LEAST THAT GUY BEHIND THE WINDOW AT THE CLERKS OFFICE WAS COOL AS **** AND SAVED ME 250 BUCKS...THIS HOLE DEAL SHOULD ONLY COST YOU $20 BONES BRO...
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Rep Power: 350 Originally posted by XtremeJM
chase has wayyyyyy too much time on his hand, i really hope he copied and pasted all that.
chase has wayyyyyy too much time on his hand, i really hope he copied and pasted all that.
man chase is the man,..... any hoo that is some lame *** excuse to pull you over for and give you a fatty ticket for.. i say fight it and make the cop look bad.. possibly get it on his record. OOo that would be good..
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