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a friend of mine encourages me to power shift when racing, i keep teling him that will wear out the car faster and such but he argues that every now and again when im in a race it doesnt really matter. anyone know if powershifting on our cars will wear it out faster or is that just a myth
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Power shifting is shifting using the clutch, but NOT letting out the gas. (there may be a variation where you also DONT use the clutch, you just jam the gear)
Either method is BAD for the car, and will wear it down. Stop doing it.
As for speed shifting, that's just shifting as quickly as you possibly can, but using the proper heel/toe technique and clutch/gas. Speed shifting is shifting, but as fast as you can do it!
Speed shift, and save the wear and tear on your car.
Either method is BAD for the car, and will wear it down. Stop doing it.
As for speed shifting, that's just shifting as quickly as you possibly can, but using the proper heel/toe technique and clutch/gas. Speed shifting is shifting, but as fast as you can do it!
Speed shift, and save the wear and tear on your car.
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Rep Power: 0 Shifting real fast will wear out the tranny anyway. Our synchros aren't that great. Shifting with the gas floored works for some cars and some not. In my 5.0 I had, keeping it floored I ran better quarter times every time. In my civic, I don't. You just have to find out which makes you quicker. I wouldn't reccomend it though. Especiallly with our weak trannys.
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[hr]Originally posted by: n00dleboy
If POWERSHITTING was good and made the car faster, why don't NASCAR drivers do it? THEY DON'T. Use the clutch, or learn to shift faster. Powershifting is for the stupid/lazy.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: n00dleboy
If POWERSHITTING was good and made the car faster, why don't NASCAR drivers do it? THEY DON'T. Use the clutch, or learn to shift faster. Powershifting is for the stupid/lazy.[hr]
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Rep Power: 0 Uh, ya know, if you just shift really fast, you can semi-power shift (unless you're shifting without the clutch... don't do that. It's goodbye clutch). When you drive up to 7k rpm and shift, you'll have enough rpms left when you hit second to pull you. If you want to keep the gas down, then make sure you shift quickly. But the better way is to let off the gas slightly so that the rpm are only slightly higher than what it should be in the next gear. Then, shift and pop the clutch. That way you won't have that much strain on the clutch and you still get the power transfer.
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Rep Power: 0 what dont you understand about this, its bad for the SYNCHROS. Who ever mentioned anything about a clutch which you can replace for 300 dollars?
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[hr]Originally posted by: n00dleboy
If POWERSHITTING was good and made the car faster, why don't NASCAR drivers do it? THEY DON'T. [hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: n00dleboy
If POWERSHITTING was good and made the car faster, why don't NASCAR drivers do it? THEY DON'T. [hr]
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[hr]Originally posted by: S2000man01
Yeah, POWERSHITTING is bad. But so is POWERSHIFTING.
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[hr]Originally posted by: n00dleboy
If POWERSHITTING was good and made the car faster, why don't NASCAR drivers do it? THEY DON'T. [hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: n00dleboy
If POWERSHITTING was good and made the car faster, why don't NASCAR drivers do it? THEY DON'T. [hr]
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joeB16: when you watch those jap guys in those vids where they got a little window of their feet positioning and when they shift, they always use the clutch.. that was my point. (professional race car drivers don't power ****)
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[hr]Originally posted by: S2000man01
Power shifting is shifting using the clutch, but NOT letting out the gas. (there may be a variation where you also DONT use the clutch, you just jam the gear)
Either method is BAD for the car, and will wear it down. Stop doing it.
As for speed shifting, that's just shifting as quickly as you possibly can, but using the proper heel/toe technique and clutch/gas. Speed shifting is shifting, but as fast as you can do it!
Speed shift, and save the wear and tear on your car.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: S2000man01
Power shifting is shifting using the clutch, but NOT letting out the gas. (there may be a variation where you also DONT use the clutch, you just jam the gear)
Either method is BAD for the car, and will wear it down. Stop doing it.
As for speed shifting, that's just shifting as quickly as you possibly can, but using the proper heel/toe technique and clutch/gas. Speed shifting is shifting, but as fast as you can do it!
Speed shift, and save the wear and tear on your car.[hr]
i can see it when ur downshifting to go into turns, but why would u use the brake for upshifting?
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[hr]Originally posted by: n00dleboy
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joeB16: when you watch those jap guys in those vids where they got a little window of their feet positioning and when they shift, they always use the clutch.. that was my point. (professional race car drivers don't power ****)[hr]
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[hr]Originally posted by: S2000man01
Yeah, POWERSHITTING is bad. But so is POWERSHIFTING.
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[hr]Originally posted by: S2000man01
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[hr]Originally posted by: n00dleboy
If POWERSHITTING was good and made the car faster, why don't NASCAR drivers do it? THEY DON'T. [hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: n00dleboy
If POWERSHITTING was good and made the car faster, why don't NASCAR drivers do it? THEY DON'T. [hr]
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joeB16: when you watch those jap guys in those vids where they got a little window of their feet positioning and when they shift, they always use the clutch.. that was my point. (professional race car drivers don't power ****)[hr]
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[hr]Originally posted by: WannaBFast
ok... so how do u heel/toe while upshifting???
i can see it when ur downshifting to go into turns, but why would u use the brake for upshifting?
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[hr]Originally posted by: WannaBFast
ok... so how do u heel/toe while upshifting???
i can see it when ur downshifting to go into turns, but why would u use the brake for upshifting?
JMHO[hr]
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Rep Power: 0 I have an Idea... why not go to a race school and learn how to double clutch like you should be doing if you are racing... which you shouldn't be racing on the street anyways. Then find out when there is a local track night in your area and practice your technique. 
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[hr]Originally posted by: silverghost
I have an Idea... why not go to a race school and learn how to double clutch like you should be doing if you are racing... which you shouldn't be racing on the street anyways. Then find out when there is a local track night in your area and practice your technique.
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[hr]Originally posted by: silverghost
I have an Idea... why not go to a race school and learn how to double clutch like you should be doing if you are racing... which you shouldn't be racing on the street anyways. Then find out when there is a local track night in your area and practice your technique.
Be careful out there guys... and keep the shiny side up! [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif[/IMG][hr]
were you kidding or serious???
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Rep Power: 0 To be honest with you.... no i wasn't kidding. Most manual transmissions have synchros... as a matter of fact you would be hard pressed to find one that doesn't.
As for double clutching slowing you down... not if you learn how to do it properly and as I said... take time to practice your technique. You can still grind gears with a synchronous gear transmission... double clutching helps to releave the stress and ensure that you don't grind your gears into a nice metallic paste.
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As for double clutching slowing you down... not if you learn how to do it properly and as I said... take time to practice your technique. You can still grind gears with a synchronous gear transmission... double clutching helps to releave the stress and ensure that you don't grind your gears into a nice metallic paste.
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Rep Power: 0 Me I do powershifts a lot when I race BELIEVE me guys it gives you an advantage over your oponent when you do powershifts[IMG]i/expressions/beer_yum.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]
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Rep Power: 0 Well... Everyone has thier own style I guess. I just wanna see the looks on your faces when honda gives you a bill for the tranny they had to replace because you toasted it. Oh.... and take from me... I am a mechanic at Ford... they do know the difference between normal failure and gears ground into a pulp.
Powershifting will definitely mess up your tranny. My case bearings went out in my 99 DX after only 40,000 miles. The cause was a damaged 2nd and 4th gear shift fork. The service guy said it was from "powershifting", even though I had never powershifted ever in that car. I always use the clutch. I did, however, shift hard and fast, and that probably had the same effect.
The bottom line is, if you abuse it, it will crap out on you. Powershifting/speed shifting is abuse on our cars.
The bottom line is, if you abuse it, it will crap out on you. Powershifting/speed shifting is abuse on our cars.
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