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wait wouldnt bigger rims just make it harder to spin tha tires since its bigger n more mass. iv always heard smaller is better for acceleration. can sumone PLEASE explain to me.
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^^ well with all the extra power he is making he is spinning his tires like crazy and he needs more traction instead of spinning tires. it would be better to have the tires gripping the floor rather than spinning all over. old tread.
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Originally Posted by 05civic_kid
ic that dose make sense either way big rims or not he'd still make me look like im sittin still lol.
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Originally Posted by 05civic_kid
wait wouldnt bigger rims just make it harder to spin tha tires since its bigger n more mass. iv always heard smaller is better for acceleration. can sumone PLEASE explain to me.
It's called inertia. If you take string with a weight on the end and spin it, it'll go pretty fast, right? While you're spinning it, move your hand up on the string and what happens? It spins faster, right? A circle with a smaller diameter will spin faster with much less force than a circle with a larger diameter. However, this will be offset by another property. If you take a 15 inch wheel and attach it to an axle that makes one revolution, the vehicle will have travelled the circumference of that wheel. If you put on an 18 inch wheel and have that axle do that same one revolution, the car will have travelled farther by the difference in circumference of the 2 wheels. So what you need to do is put the wheel/tire diameter and weight into a formula to figure out the best ratio to get you the farthest in the shortest amount of time.
More importantly, if you're looking for a better launch, what you want is more contact with the ground, not a larger wheel. Simply a wider wheel/tire combination will achieve this along with something with less of a tread pattern on it, preferably no tread pattern at all (slicks). You may also want to factor in the temperature/consistency of the rubber and the temperature of the air inside/outside the tire along with the temperature of the asphalt.
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It's interesting how car enthusiasts feel the need to compare themselves to one another. Whether or not 277 horsepower is a lot or not is a static fact, it has nothing to do with the acceleration speeds of my car. If a fat man tells another fat man he's fat, does the size of the 1st fat man make the 2nd fat man any skinnier? But regardless, I'm not going to be concerned with how fast it is or isn't, I know nothing about racing or building a race car. So I may be totally wrong in thinking it, it just still doesn't seem that fast to me.
Not that it's relevant to anything, I'd probably pay money just to be able to look under his hood, it's still cool as a build. Just average for a power rating. 
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Originally Posted by DeX
Here's my non-contribution to the thread.....
It's interesting how car enthusiasts feel the need to compare themselves to one another. Whether or not 277 horsepower is a lot or not is a static fact, it has nothing to do with the acceleration speeds of my car. If a fat man tells another fat man he's fat, does the size of the 1st fat man make the 2nd fat man any skinnier? But regardless, I'm not going to be concerned with how fast it is or isn't, I know nothing about racing or building a race car. So I may be totally wrong in thinking it, it just still doesn't seem that fast to me. Not that it's relevant to anything, I'd probably pay money just to be able to look under his hood, it's still cool as a build. Just average for a power rating.
It's interesting how car enthusiasts feel the need to compare themselves to one another. Whether or not 277 horsepower is a lot or not is a static fact, it has nothing to do with the acceleration speeds of my car. If a fat man tells another fat man he's fat, does the size of the 1st fat man make the 2nd fat man any skinnier? But regardless, I'm not going to be concerned with how fast it is or isn't, I know nothing about racing or building a race car. So I may be totally wrong in thinking it, it just still doesn't seem that fast to me.
Not that it's relevant to anything, I'd probably pay money just to be able to look under his hood, it's still cool as a build. Just average for a power rating.P.S. The 2nd fat man is skinnier
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It's called inertia. If you take string with a weight on the end and spin it, it'll go pretty fast, right? While you're spinning it, move your hand up on the string and what happens? It spins faster, right? A circle with a smaller diameter will spin faster with much less force than a circle with a larger diameter. However, this will be offset by another property. If you take a 15 inch wheel and attach it to an axle that makes one revolution, the vehicle will have travelled the circumference of that wheel. If you put on an 18 inch wheel and have that axle do that same one revolution, the car will have travelled farther by the difference in circumference of the 2 wheels. So what you need to do is put the wheel/tire diameter and weight into a formula to figure out the best ratio to get you the farthest in the shortest amount of time.
More importantly, if you're looking for a better launch, what you want is more contact with the ground, not a larger wheel. Simply a wider wheel/tire combination will achieve this along with something with less of a tread pattern on it, preferably no tread pattern at all (slicks). You may also want to factor in the temperature/consistency of the rubber and the temperature of the air inside/outside the tire along with the temperature of the asphalt.
Here's my non-contribution to the thread.....
It's interesting how car enthusiasts feel the need to compare themselves to one another. Whether or not 277 horsepower is a lot or not is a static fact, it has nothing to do with the acceleration speeds of my car. If a fat man tells another fat man he's fat, does the size of the 1st fat man make the 2nd fat man any skinnier? But regardless, I'm not going to be concerned with how fast it is or isn't, I know nothing about racing or building a race car. So I may be totally wrong in thinking it, it just still doesn't seem that fast to me. Not that it's relevant to anything, I'd probably pay money just to be able to look under his hood, it's still cool as a build. Just average for a power rating.
It's called inertia. If you take string with a weight on the end and spin it, it'll go pretty fast, right? While you're spinning it, move your hand up on the string and what happens? It spins faster, right? A circle with a smaller diameter will spin faster with much less force than a circle with a larger diameter. However, this will be offset by another property. If you take a 15 inch wheel and attach it to an axle that makes one revolution, the vehicle will have travelled the circumference of that wheel. If you put on an 18 inch wheel and have that axle do that same one revolution, the car will have travelled farther by the difference in circumference of the 2 wheels. So what you need to do is put the wheel/tire diameter and weight into a formula to figure out the best ratio to get you the farthest in the shortest amount of time.
More importantly, if you're looking for a better launch, what you want is more contact with the ground, not a larger wheel. Simply a wider wheel/tire combination will achieve this along with something with less of a tread pattern on it, preferably no tread pattern at all (slicks). You may also want to factor in the temperature/consistency of the rubber and the temperature of the air inside/outside the tire along with the temperature of the asphalt.
Here's my non-contribution to the thread.....
It's interesting how car enthusiasts feel the need to compare themselves to one another. Whether or not 277 horsepower is a lot or not is a static fact, it has nothing to do with the acceleration speeds of my car. If a fat man tells another fat man he's fat, does the size of the 1st fat man make the 2nd fat man any skinnier? But regardless, I'm not going to be concerned with how fast it is or isn't, I know nothing about racing or building a race car. So I may be totally wrong in thinking it, it just still doesn't seem that fast to me.
Not that it's relevant to anything, I'd probably pay money just to be able to look under his hood, it's still cool as a build. Just average for a power rating.
Just go out to your car, floor it and judge how fast your civic is. Then take how fast your car was at WOT and times it by like 3-4 times that speed if not more, then you have his car.
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Originally Posted by D5cIvIc
You say you know nothing about racing or building a race car, but yet you say his 277 WHP in a CIVIC is not fast. You my friend have just owned yourself.
Just go out to your car, floor it and judge how fast your civic is. Then take how fast your car was at WOT and times it by like 3-4 times that speed if not more, then you have his car.
Just go out to your car, floor it and judge how fast your civic is. Then take how fast your car was at WOT and times it by like 3-4 times that speed if not more, then you have his car.
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Rep Power: 278 I've figured it out that you're comparing it to a regular Civic and I'm comparing it to other attainable cars like the WRX. It makes sense to me now, so yes, it's fast in comparison to something as hellishly slow as a stock Civic.
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I've figured it out that you're comparing it to a regular Civic and I'm comparing it to other attainable cars like the WRX. It makes sense to me now, so yes, it's fast in comparison to something as hellishly slow as a stock Civic.
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Originally Posted by D5cIvIc
Even if you're comparing his car to a WRX. He can almost pretty much take out most of the WRX that are out there. A civic with a stock K20a2 can take out a stock WRX any day of hte week.
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WRX's are not even on the same level as this guys civic. I think by WRX you mean the STI, even if you are talking about the STI, he could still give the STI a good run (from a roll ).
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Originally Posted by DeX
I've figured it out that you're comparing it to a regular Civic and I'm comparing it to other attainable cars like the WRX. It makes sense to me now, so yes, it's fast in comparison to something as hellishly slow as a stock Civic.
I totaly dont think that stock WRX is seriosly fast straight line car, it is heavy and 4wd takes extra power to turn wheels. It is good from dead stop, but advantage slowly dissapering with acceleration due to engine need to turn 4 wheels. Nonetheless WRX is a very good car and I like it.
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Dex why the **** do you continue to dis believe him? What has he done on this site besides bring us good/real info? His attitude is not that of a liar.
Can't you just appreciate his thread for all the hard work he's put into his car?
Can't you just appreciate his thread for all the hard work he's put into his car?
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Rep Power: 278 Holy smokes, why does everyone think I'm disbelieving him? We've come to the conclusion that...
1. his car is rediculously fast in comparison to what it started out as
2. he's done an awesome job with such a huge build to get it where it is
3. it's my opinion that 277 horsepower in a car of some sort is not a lot
4. I'm not basing 3 as relevence to what it started out as, just a general statement
5. I have a very very very nice stereo in my car compared to what it started out as originally. But is it very very awesome in general? No, it's okay.
At no point in time was I dissing Transformer, his car or his build. Why can't you accept I have a personal opinion and let it go? It's like I have to be impressed by it.
1. his car is rediculously fast in comparison to what it started out as
2. he's done an awesome job with such a huge build to get it where it is
3. it's my opinion that 277 horsepower in a car of some sort is not a lot
4. I'm not basing 3 as relevence to what it started out as, just a general statement
5. I have a very very very nice stereo in my car compared to what it started out as originally. But is it very very awesome in general? No, it's okay.
At no point in time was I dissing Transformer, his car or his build. Why can't you accept I have a personal opinion and let it go? It's like I have to be impressed by it.
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Originally Posted by DeX
At no point in time was I dissing Transformer, his car or his build. Why can't you accept I have a personal opinion and let it go? It's like I have to be impressed by it.
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Originally Posted by DeX
3. it's my opinion that 277 horsepower in a car of some sort is not a lot
I still don't understand why you don't think 277 is not alot of horsepower. Could you give me some cars that you think have alot of horsepower? I don't want you to be impressed by his car I just want to know what you consider alot of horsepower
Everyone thinks you don't believe him because
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I doubt you killed a Hemi in a civic, isn't that a V8? Or is it a straight 6? It's a 429 right?
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Rep Power: 278 Oh, right. I should have said that I changed my opinion after reading his build. The post about the Hemi was prior to knowing that.
The reason I don't think 277 is a lot is because many average cars come stock with that, domestics have been doing it for decades without a price tag that will rape your wallet. Now I'd cut my throat before I ever bought a domestic, but it's just way too common to now say this rating is impressive.
I would, however, say it's impressive in comparison to what he started with, which is where the confusion was coming from.
The reason I don't think 277 is a lot is because many average cars come stock with that, domestics have been doing it for decades without a price tag that will rape your wallet. Now I'd cut my throat before I ever bought a domestic, but it's just way too common to now say this rating is impressive.
I would, however, say it's impressive in comparison to what he started with, which is where the confusion was coming from.
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Originally Posted by Civorama
The hemis are a v6 i know this because my dad and i did our homework on them seeing as we just bought one today but not the hemi just the regular v6 pimp car
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Rep Power: 280 Yeah its a v8 not a v6 apperently you didnt do you homework too well there Civorama...
http://www.automedia.com/2005/Chrysl...ts200409013c/1
http://www.automedia.com/2005/Chrysl...ts200409013c/1
Well look at what a 270whp N/A CIVIC K24 can do to an EVO. And you tell me 270whp isnt fast in comparison to WRX, STi, Hemi, etc...LOL DeX your an idiot.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...51377361927206
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...51377361927206
