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350z ECU flash or Civic Si with I/H/E?

Old Sep 12, 2005
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350z ECU flash or Civic Si with I/H/E?

Guys my friend with a fairly new stock Z had his ECU reflashed. He also has a unfinished sub box with no subs or amps in his trunk.

He also has a 1lb radar detector.

He wants to know if he can beat a new Civic Si with I/H/E? Does anyone know?
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Old Sep 12, 2005
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I'm not sure if preliminary times are out on the new Civic Si yet are they? I imagine they'd run around the same as an RSX-S, which is about 14.9 in the 1/4 stock, adding in the I/H/E, shave off a few tenths mayeb? Mid/high 14s?
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Old Sep 12, 2005
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i doubt highly a si would have the same 1/4 as a type s, the z would i win i say
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Old Sep 12, 2005
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yeah z for sure
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Old Sep 12, 2005
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You have to make it fair and get hondata for the si.
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Old Sep 12, 2005
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also is the si full weight or hella gutted? With better tires i/h/e and hondata i would say it would be a close race.
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Old Sep 13, 2005
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wait do you guys mean the new 06 si??
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Old Sep 13, 2005
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The new car and driver had a article on the o6 Si. Honda has the Si running a 0-60 @ 7.3secs. So it's about a second slower than the type-s. I say I/H/E will still lose to a reflash 350z, hell even a stock z.
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Old Sep 13, 2005
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the si will lose...
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no contest. 350Z all day long.
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Old Sep 13, 2005
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z - dont matter what year or line.
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that peice of crap z will get killed...what is he thinking???

Si by a mile
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Old Sep 13, 2005
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why is the si so slow, compared to type s?
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different head and gearing, gearbox: i doubt they're talkin about the 06 cuz im sure they dont have i-h-e for the new k20

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yeah if it has ihe then it's gonna be a 7th gen Si.

and sorry, but you're talking a 15 second car vs a 13 second car. Z all day any day.
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are you serious? that 350 walks on a supercharged si...
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350z walks and tap dances on a supercharged SI. Z for sure
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in colder weather it riverdances on it
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why is the 06 si a full second slower in 0-60 compared to type s?
I thought that the only difference was the intake manifold, not the head. Is it only slower because of gearing, if so why would honda do that?
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^^you're looking at manufacturer's numbers.

wait til we get some decent real world numbers. i think the new Si is gonna be right up there with the RSX-S.
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why is the 06 si a full second slower in 0-60 compared to type s?
I thought that the only difference was the intake manifold, not the head. Is it only slower because of gearing, if so why would honda do that?
mostly because of its weight.. damn thing almost weighs 3000LBS
Also it doesnt have the same gear ratio as the rsx type S. Gearing plays a big part.. New SI is 7.1 0-60
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I wonder why honda went with that gear ratio?
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it has a higher final drive than a 02-04 rsx-s...
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What about 05?
I guess they did it for better MPG, am i right?
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stock Z's vs supercharged SI's with equal drivers, i dont think the SI would lose...
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^^then you'd be thinking wrong.

the JRSC does not do anywhere near enough for the ep3 to run 13's. they'd have to be cranking up the boost and have other mods.
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Old Sep 16, 2005
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omg ep3 wwith i/h/e vs 350z with ecu flash....wtf dude...Z all da way
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Old Sep 16, 2005
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Yeah he told me he pretty much raped that guy.

Funny thing is that guy was talking so much smack at work and laughing at my friend's Z and his reflash.

When my friend beat the SI driver's *** and met him again at work the guy mumbled "yeah you're faster."
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