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Old Jul 28, 2005
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Originally Posted by scansel912
Are you gonna spray right when you launch or when you gain traction. If you spray when you gain traction, DR's should be fine. I do it on street tires and it works great.
Might try it right out the hole, but we'll see. Gonna borrow my friends wider DR's if I do.
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I can't tell if you guys are just cruising or actually racing in the video. In fact "I can't see **** in the video...." the quality blows.
I can go up to one my buddies with a Honda CBR blackbird, make a shitty quality video, and than say I kept up with that bike!
Despite this whole pointless thread which means nothing without track footage.
I suggest you take this contested event to race Legal. Hell they're racing tomorrow at LACR. Show us some proof of what you run in the 1/4.

Anyways, what’s the point of showing a video of your self being raped by an Srt-4?

I just like to note that S2000man has showed great patience and maturity in dealing with you on this forum. You have tried my patience more than once with your somewhat absurd stories.
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Originally Posted by NAstage2
Oh you are right, Im just quoting max PSI reached on a stock SRT4 from not only SRTforums posts, but from the dodge web page. You own one though, so all that goes out the window.



Dumbass, try reading. how fast the SRT is, isnt in question. Its the fact that this retard with the DX and nawz thinks he can keep up.

I has previously stated that I dont believe these "facts" that redliar04 here was spouting out. Hell he didnt even give a turbo size.

That matters been laid to rest. The fact that this guy has upgraded cooling turbo housing and fuel system makes redlines story even more recockulous.

However, if you want to keep stating the obvious be my guest.

So indeed, whats so hard to understand?

BTW, just because you have boost spikes doesnt mean you are making usable power.
boost spikes are useable power .. look at dasmopar on srt forums makes like 330 ft lbs of tQ in mid range 286 at peaks hp is like 306 in mid range and 260 at peaks . he is using the spikes to make tQ to move our 3,000 plus lbs car .. thats why he cuts 1.69 60ft constantly . **** ... the main pot of redline comparing his car to mine is that @ 8 psi on my car i run a mid to low 13 @ THE TRACK ! and i myself being a track veteran in 8 , 10 , 11, 12 ,etc sec.. cars that i have owned . i know that my car doesnt run what i run at the track on the street ... hell i know and seen car's be fast on the street than the track and vise versa . I know for my car runs in the 13's period on 8 freeking psi ! Redline ran my car with a 50 shot spraying at the begining of 2nd gear ....He was only comparing his car to mine .. know where did he say he was running a 13 sec time.... but the ponit of the vid is that he only lost to me by 2 cars .. which means he is running very good .. so with being able to spray of the line and hooking all of his tiny power his car makes and how light it is he might just be able to get in to the 13's friday night ... everything was just fine in till started talking crazy .
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then dont take such lame videos as "proof".

go race at a track in the DAY and make sure to get the lights at the end giving the ET and MPH. end of story.
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Originally Posted by NAstage2
then dont take such lame videos as "proof".

go race at a track in the DAY and make sure to get the lights at the end giving the ET and MPH. end of story.
*** damm u are a hard head ! where did he say it was proof !!!! where please show me where ! please do ! he just talk about racing a 450 plus srt4. with me on 8 psi ! thats all ! it not like he said " im running 13.2's and **** " here 's the video ! WE all know u have to back claims with time slips and sometimes a vid. hell u just made a statement that u run with a 350 z from 80 to 120 .. and that means what? Nothing ! my point ! hell u would share that u race a 600 hp civic down the highway and u got ur *** handed to u too ! That all he said !
I didnt make the vid i just drove the **** out of REDLINE! at the start of this tread this what was said ! Video of me vs Shiftys big turbo SRT
Not the greatest quality, but on low boost 8#'s I was right on his ***. 15#'s and it was over for me. Good runs though Shifty.
More video at the track to come this weekend. where does it say 13's !
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I'm calling on everything until i see video and slips from both cars now
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[QUOTE]This is WhiteCastle's friend from Central Texas, let me just say i've been around SRT-4s, Civics, 03/04 Cobras, 91 Talon TSis, STis, Evos and all kinds of cars in the short time I've been in the motor sports world, but first things first, if the video is shitty, don't put it up, waste of space and time and only God knows what else, second of all, 2 car lengths translates to almost a sec and half plus, which means a lil more 1 and 1/2 secs, on the track, and that means your boy is runin almost a 14.9 if you ran a 13.2, sorry dude, but that 1.7Ls intake manifold is gonna blow way longer before he's able to spray enough nitrous to jump it down from a stock 17.5 sec 1/4 mile.

To be dead damn honest, i'm callin major bullshit on the 8lbs of boost equating to a 13 sec time slip out of a srt 4, sorry, it's FWD, we learned that FWD sux when we were kids riding those lil tricyles, second, 8lbs of boost will make a shittier performance out of a bigger turbo and is not smart at all, just out right retarded, 3rd that srt is no where NEAR being lightly modded, you have to have some kind of stand alone, cause tweakin with the boost in those cars automatically malfs up the stock tune, anything above the stock 12-14 psi ends up causin the ecu to throw a knock and retard the timing, killin the power band on that car, droppin the boost is almost like racing down the track with your fat girlfriend in the car, and please don't waste our time by saying it's a way to save money on gas, cause if you do i'm gonna call you a ****tard cause if you're worried about saving gas, go buy a damn toyoter prius and not something meant to go fast

To changing out the turbo, THAT is NOT A LIGHT MOD on that car because the you have very much yank the motor out to swap the turbo out, and if you're a veteran of anything semi fast, you damn well know that for a car to make that much power, you have mod around, ugprading everything else to handle the 450 whp, not only that but those stock short blocks can not handle that much power, it's a bloody Dodge motor, not a 4G63 or a 2JGZ or a RB26DETT or a DOHC 4.6 Ford Modular out of the 03/04 cobras or the 5.7L out of the Lightning.

So to round it up, your civic is still slow, will be slow till you put a different power plant in no matter how much juice you put through it cause for one thing, it's SOHC, another the stock short block sux and the air flow on the stock head probably sux, instead of spending thousands of dollars on modding the block or head or whatever else, just save your hooker money and buy a better power plant, like a K20a2 or better yet, buy a car meant to go fast, that works to you know, and you Mr. I'm a veteran of 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16 sec cars, are full of major bull **** to an infinite power and need to just take your **** elsewhere.QUOTE]

"my friend read the thread wanted me to post this. hes not a member of this site. So any comments said arent my own"

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^lol about ur friend dont know where too start. So sohc suck right? How did bisi run 10's then? Also its front wheel drive. And if front wheel drive sucks then why every time i go to sac raceway i see all of these street or drag hondas in the 10,11,12 etc while the best time an awd car got was a 12.8 (yes i know theres tons of fast awd cars). Of course front wheel drive is not gonna be good when someone puts alot of power on no lsd, stock tires not aired out, suspension etc there is so many factors its not even funny. Ur friend was being very ignorant. And some people get good numbers on sohc's like over 400 whp so why is redline or most people on this site stupid for tryin to get a sohc fast. Our money not urs

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yup. he made it sound like he was running 13's since he said that his friend ran 13's with the 8 pounds of boost.

track, timeslip, video. yay. oh and don't come back here telling us some BS about how you run 13's with a 50 shot.
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you can adjust boost on stock srt-4?
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Originally Posted by allmotor
Of course front wheel drive is not gonna be good when someone puts alot of power on no lsd, stock tires not aired out, suspension etc there is so many factors its not even funny.
The main factor is physics, no getting around that.


"Accelerate with near full power in a front-wheel drive car and you'll quickly notice the resulting effect of rearward weight shift. By contrast, hard acceleration in rear-wheel drive cars increases the rear wheels' grip on good road surfaces because of the rearward weight shift."

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the bottom line here is this.

when redline first posted this encounter with this SRT4 he made it sound like his friend was a 13 second SRT4 and that he hung with him, therefore he was a 13 second civic.

whether this guy ran a 13.4 at the track on his 8lbs. boost larger turbo (again doesn't make sense to me either, considering flow rates, etc) or not makes no difference. that's on a track. this was on a street. chances are, your friend was making a 14 second pass when he raced you.

so regardless of everything else that this thread has turned into about SRT4's and turbos, and all these is/are/should/would/could statements, redline made it sound like he ran a 13 second car and hung with him, therefore he could do 13's.

the unfortunate part is, he could run a 100 shot, bang out a 13, and tell us all he did it on a 50 shot. however, the part i'm most interested to see will be his trap speed. because his trap speed will indicate to us whether or not he used nitrous on his 15.1@90 pass or not. the numbers don't add up for the mods. so time will tell.
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I believe him. I ran a 9sec 1/4 mile boosting 6psi on my stock 01 LX.
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by 9 sec do you mean 9 flat or 9. something?
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i really dont like to get into these types of arguments but i just read this entire thread and it did no come across to me that he was making any claims or that he was trying to use the video as proof for anything. i understand that he may have said that the srt runs 13's but i personally didnt take it as he was saying he runs that time because i have seen his other posts about his low 14. it seems to me like there are a few people making a bigger deal out of this than its worth. i mean the guy was excited that he didnt get totally rapped when he buddies 13 sec car. the video is low quality but its really not something to get into a huge fight about is it?? i mean we are all here for the same thing to live and learn and to discuss 7thgen civic related topics. i personally enjoy coming on forums and learning what differnt cars runs with different mods. there is always going to be someone that is a little less experienced or a little less mature that just doesnt know. does that really mean we should flame them for trying to learn or be a part of the rest of the world. no, point them in the right direction with out being hostile. i have called bs on threads in other forums as well because of obvious reasons and also gotten into heated arguments about stupid shizz. but all in all i realize that you can go on fighting for ever because people have different opinions. different cars will run different times in different climates and conditions so i think that everyone here has a valid point. but remember the most important thing " opinions are like *******z everyone has them and some times they stink"!!

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Originally Posted by scansel912
by 9 sec do you mean 9 flat or 9. something?
yeah, I hit 9 flat and 9.1 allllll the time

I was just playin around. Im hoping for high 13's at 10psi, but that will be a little difficult (maybe). Well see what happens in the winter. I have absolutely no idea what my times are, so I will never post shi* about what they "might" be. although I know Im at least in the 14s, lol.
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Originally Posted by S2000man01

the unfortunate part is, he could run a 100 shot, bang out a 13, and tell us all he did it on a 50 shot. however, the part i'm most interested to see will be his trap speed. because his trap speed will indicate to us whether or not he used nitrous on his 15.1@90 pass or not. the numbers don't add up for the mods. so time will tell.
Just for you we will try to film the entire run and keep the camera on the car all the way back to the pits, pop the hood and show you the jets. A bit ridiculous but if that's what it takes to prove my integrity then i guess I'll do it. 100shot on stock motor I'd rather not have peices of my engine scatterd about the track.
On the old 15.1 issue. Remember coupestylz?
http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/member.php?u=1491
He ran a 15.726 @ 88.5 mph on 17's in 40-50degree weather with a DX. So why is it so hard to believe that I ran a 15.1 and trapped 1-1.5 mph faster, with a crank pulley, weight reduction,14" wheels with drag radials, similar weather conditions and the fact that I may be a better driver? I really dont care, cause if I run a 15.5 in this hot weather fri I'll still hold the NA record time since no one else has gotten below a 15.7. Then when it gets cold and I get my safc and new clutch we'll try for 14's NA again.
It's all good and it's only getting better.
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Nice, what PSI were you running on those 9 sec runs? I ran like a 9.5 at 75 and did a 14.7 in the quarter with NOS. I'd expect youd be in the high 13's for sure.
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Originally Posted by mohawkboom
My Bone stock DX 5 speed sedan, 220lbs of me, 180lbs of sound system 16.98 seconds @83MPH


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Guy trapped higher than me stock with a 4 door DX and a whole lot more weight, which could indicate initially I was a bad driver(which I was) and as I got better my trap speed picked up as well.

If I stock EX on street tires can run a 15.8@91mph why I cant I run a 15.1 in a car that is 300-400lbs lighter making more torque and power than a stock EX and on drag radials? Hmmm

http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=34986
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I have a 5sp. LX coupe with an OBX muffler and custom 2"piping, also have injen shoet ram intake and I ran a 15.99@90.3 mph... I was on stock tires and it was a cool low humidity day.

the conditions couldn't have been better at about 8pm at Capitol Raceway
15.99@90
Hmmm LX has same motor and heavier I have all the other stuff I mentioned.

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Originally Posted by Redline04
Just for you we will try to film the entire run and keep the camera on the car all the way back to the pits, pop the hood and show you the jets. A bit ridiculous but if that's what it takes to prove my integrity then i guess I'll do it. 100shot on stock motor I'd rather not have peices of my engine scatterd about the track.
On the old 15.1 issue. Remember coupestylz?
http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/member.php?u=1491
He ran a 15.726 @ 88.5 mph on 17's in 40-50degree weather with a DX. So why is it so hard to believe that I ran a 15.1 and trapped 1-1.5 mph faster, with a crank pulley, weight reduction,14" wheels with drag radials, similar weather conditions and the fact that I may be a better driver? I really dont care, cause if I run a 15.5 in this hot weather fri I'll still hold the NA record time since no one else has gotten below a 15.7. Then when it gets cold and I get my safc and new clutch we'll try for 14's NA again.
It's all good and it's only getting better.
Also someone was talking about that civic that ran a 15.8 stock. We hold that to be totally true correct? Because I found it the other day on my computer and heres what he ran exactly. 15.828 @ 91.836 MPH. Thats a higher trap speed than Redline04 with mods and weight reduction!
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i really dont like to get into these types of arguments but i just read this entire thread and it did no come across to me that he was making any claims or that he was trying to use the video as proof for anything.
you missed his previous thread.
We decided to race each other. He said he would leave it on low boost, so I agreed to waste my N20 in the name of fun. 10psi on a (edit) T3/T4 60trim with a 61mm wheel. He ran mid to high 13's with this setup before. From a dig we go pretty even off the start, by the end of first he is ahead slighly with his door panel at my front bumper, shift to second and hit the switch, he pulls ahead and my front bumper is right at his rear bumper, third through 4th he pulls ever so slightly, by 115 he is still about a car ahead of me and I shut down.
here he makes it sound like since his friend ran mid/high 13's with this setup before. he then says he races him with this setup and hangs with him by 1 car to 115. so yeah, he posted it making it sound like he was running 13's. but i digress.

now let me point out the ricer discrepancy. (yet another one)
Originally Posted by Redline04
10psi on a T3/T4 60trim with a 61mm wheel. He ran mid to high 13's with this setup before.
Originally Posted by ShiftySRT4
At 8 psi on big turbo with Big fmic and exhaust it ran 13.4@106 with 1.90 60ft.
Oh but wait. First he had stated his friend ran mid to high 13's on 10PSI. But then the guy comes in and says, no I ran a 13.4 on 8PSI!!

Not to mention the fact that you told us you ran him on 10psi before, and now it's 8psi.

the drama continues....
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the numbers don't add up, as i've already said. and pointing out a bunch of other drivers with different cars, conditions, and drivers, doesn't do much.
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Originally Posted by S2000man01
you missed his previous thread.
here he makes it sound like since his friend ran mid/high 13's with this setup before. he then says he races him with this setup and hangs with him by 1 car to 115. so yeah, he posted it making it sound like he was running 13's. but i digress.

now let me point out the ricer discrepancy. (yet another one)
Oh but wait. First he had stated his friend ran mid to high 13's on 10PSI. But then the guy comes in and says, no I ran a 13.4 on 8PSI!!

Not to mention the fact that you told us you ran him on 10psi before, and now it's 8psi.

the drama continues....
Well since I don't really know **** about srt-4's I was posting up what I thought was right. I did know that stock srts were around 10-11#'s stock so when he said low boost I just assumed that meant stock boost and I knew he ran high 13's stock. I was wrong and I don't know much about turbos, I can admit that, but he came on here and corrected me since it is his car and he knows all the facts about it. I just know it's got a big *** turbo and it is fast. LOL
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the numbers don't add up, as i've already said. and pointing out a bunch of other drivers with different cars, conditions, and drivers, doesn't do much.
Different drivers, different conditions, different cars and yet we all trapped at 90mph or around 90mph and there was no question to their times. Maybe those three factors where all in my favor plus all the mods I have, lighter weight and sticky *** DR's. How is that so hard to believe! You kill me. You can spit out all the numbers and all the **** you read in books on forums or wherever else you pick it up, but when it comes to the real world there are too many factors that come in to play. It's not always black and white.
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Different drivers, different conditions, different cars and yet we all trapped at 90mph or around 90mph and there was no question to their times. Maybe those three factors where all in my favor plus all the mods I have, lighter weight and sticky *** DR's. How is that so hard to believe! You kill me. You can spit out all the numbers and all the **** you read in books on forums or wherever else you pick it up, but when it comes to the real world there are too many factors that come in to play. It's not always black and white.
the point is, you are barely modded a bit more than they are, yet ran .6-.7 seconds faster. even though they trapped the same or slightly slower than you.... Sorry, DR's on a low horsepower civic are not the miracle. I will admit it isn't completely impossible, but I still have heavy doubts because it's close enough.
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Originally Posted by S2000man01
the point is, you are barely modded a bit more than they are, yet ran .6-.7 seconds faster. even though they trapped the same or slightly slower than you.... Sorry, DR's on a low horsepower civic are not the miracle. I will admit it isn't completely impossible, but I still have heavy doubts because it's close enough.
crank pulley 5-8Hp, no cat, 300-400lbs less(at least 3 tenths right there), consistanlty shaved 3 tenths on DR's compared to my 17's and stockies. There's 6 tenths with just two simple mods that no one else had. Then the crank pulley as well and possibly better driving. I give up you win!! I lied U got me. Sarcasim
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wait are these retards still doubting your 15.1 pass?? WTF I thought when 4 poeple who say you do it came and posted they would have ****ing learned. but no....


whitecastle.. stop just stop you haev no clue what you speak of.
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wait are these retards still doubting your 15.1 pass?? WTF I thought when 4 poeple who say you do it came and posted they would have ****ing learned. but no....


whitecastle.. stop just stop you haev no clue what you speak of.
LOL it will never end. 4 on here plus I think there was a couple on CRSX as well.
Guess I just need to start a reality show and have cams on me 24 7 , but even then I'm sure they would find something else to gripe about.



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