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and like i said, run ems with your nitrous and kiss your engine goodbye.

 
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and even some 150+ shots still use two jettings. They use bigger solenoids. I know what your talking about, about the 4+ jettings. I also know that they are not for our vics.

 
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so which is it black99vtec?

 
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do you not understand that 75hp froom 80hp is not much different? I bet you a million dollars that the 75 shot will at least as much as the 80 if not, more.

 
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i'm skeptical at best. post pics and i'll shut up.

 
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post pics on what man.

 
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not to mention you're running this on stock internals. like i said. you'll HAVE to do an engine swap by summer at this rate, because your D17 will be toast.

 
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sorry Im not anywhere near the lean side. Im running quite rich and thats only because my bottle doesnt have enough pressure to shoot more nitrous. If I was 2psi above I wouldve been running less rich.

 
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post some pics of your nitrous system in your car. the engine, the lines, the trunk, everything. then i'll believe you're running your 80+ wet nitrous system.

and even then, your engine will eventually be toast if you dont build up your internals.

 
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maybe, but not if I use it wisely. My friend(auto shop owner) personally runs a 100+ shot on his american muscle car and has been running it for over a year with no problems. He took it off recently and the car is still running good.

 
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your trippin dude. Give me e-mail and Ill personally e-mail em to you. I cant post because picture size are too big.
FOR THE LAST TIME: I am not running above 80 shot. All kits come with simular jettings. for instance, 40-60-80 on edelbrock kits, 55-70 on zex kits , 40-75 on nx kits. <<<< THIS IS NOT ACCURATE IT IS ONLY AN EXAMPLE.

 
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why all this doubt?

here:

you never mentioned any of these mods in your profile, but whatever, not a huge deal.


next you say this:
followed by this:
next you say this:
Except a direct port style nitrous systems has a nozzle for EACH cylinder and shoots directly into the intake manifold in the plenum leading to each cylinder. So you obviously dont even know what kind of nitrous system you have. Plus you say you have 1 nozzle running into the rubber clamp by the intake manifold. But then say this:
lastly:
your shop owner probably also doesn't have stock internals on his muscle car. and even then, his muscle car isn't a D17 4 cylinder honda, which is NOT made to run the shot you're running on stock internals. especially with your "2 nozzle" wet direct port nitrous system, which can't atomize the fuel properly and will cause detonation easily. checked your plugs lately?

email pics to S2000man01@wi.rr.com

 
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1 set= 1 pair man get things straight. It shoots into the intake. I dont know the correct wording of it. I know my kit more than you so you shouldnt be trying to correct me cause I know what I did and it was well worth it. I had no problems installin the kit except for the microswitch which I now have well mounted thanks to fellow 7th gen members.
and the shopowner is running stock internals. Just that his car is a v8 so it will be able to handle more. Im not going to detonate because my a/f ratio is on the rich side. It has to be lean lean if it desides to blow.
And yes I check my plugs weekly. I can do it in less than 5 mins each and 1 min for the rest.

 
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running ems will not detonate my engine if I get it tuned right. First of all, it does not advance the timing unless you make it to advance it. Second it will retard the timing if you set it be. Third, It works with forced induction. Its not the best bang for buck on our cars like it is with higher end cars including supras,s200s, 350z, etc... but it will help alot with the mixture and 100098328917498327893278943278942378932 other things. theres just so many things you can do with it. AEM wouldnt make stuff that would not be compatible with our cars. They would lose hella money.

 
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a set of nozzles means TWO. a single wet nitrous system has 2 hoses that run into ONE NOZZLE. there isn't a seperate nozzle for fuel and another for nitrous.
right.... that's why you called it a direct port nitrous system.
how about some of them jump in here and vouch for you then?
yes but that's the problem. running an 80-shot of wet nitrous into the intake manifold will NOT atomize properly and will NOT even out the mixture into each cylinder.
just cuz your a/f mixture is fine in the intake manifold does NOT mean it's fine in each combustion chamber. i gaurantee you're detonating somewhere.

 
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look... i'm not trying to be an ***. it just sounds fishy to me. and we've had people bs the hell out of us at the site before. (black99vtec) you should learn a bit more about what you're running so when people ask these things it doesn't make you look like you're full of it.

send me pics and i'll shut up. i gave ya my email address. i'll even post them for you if you want.

 
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if it was going to be like what you thought it to be then why do manufacturers make kits for our cars. Theres a reason why its not above 100 shot and also I already sent you the pics leave me alone until I get my dyno.

 
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also stop bringing up blackvtec. I dont know who the hell that is nor what he posted for you to keep bringing him up. Either post what he said along with his name or dont post his name at all.

 
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just cuz they make the kit for your car doesn't mean it's ok to run without proper tuning and upgrading internals.

 
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lol yay shift ****








looks good. (so yes i'll shut up now)

but seriously. for your own good, you gotta learn more about it or admit if there is something you dont know. (like for example calling it a direct port nitrous system when it's not) cuz it makes you sound like you're full of it.

and seriously, you need to watch your usage cuz an 80 shot is too much for stock internals, and especially on a single jet nozzle system. you may have an ok a/f ratio in the intake manifold, but an 80 shot isn't going to distribute evenly into each cylinder with a single jet nozzle. you'll be getting detonation in one or more cylinders. plus if you're running rich, that's just as unhealthy for your car.

 
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look man, the only tuning you can do with it without a computer/ecu is basically just try different jetting sizes. For instance, my nitrous jetting i s .035 while my fuel jetting is .029 if Im lean I would simply just unscrew the nozzle and put in a higher jetting for the fuel to make more fuel go in so thats the only way I can tune my **** for now. The manual even says to know the a/f ratio so you can adjust the jetting sizes. Of course the manual told me how to start but its not accurate so you would have to change the jettings yourself and test it to be sure that all jettings are proper sizes.

Tuning nitrous is nothing like tuning a supercharger or turbo.

 
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ok, can I have my 5mins back from reading this, haha.

Anyways, Civic_Redline give up, your getting owned post after post. Im sitting here reading it and agreeing w/ everything s2000man. Your story is out of wack and you say you raced a real JDM silvia... but give no good evidence. You got lucky on that kill...anyways, get ya facts and story right because the last 6pages have been

lol @ shooting the nos in the intake

 
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Yeah I know nitrous is dangerous. And Im learning more and more things through experience of trouble shooting. Luckily edelbrock was always there to replace my items for free in some cases they gave me extra stuff for free.

My kit is direct port style. Thats what it says in my manual. Its not actually direct port. Its like saying carbon fiber style which is not really carbon, but has similar patterns to it. The real carbon fiber is the real d eal while carbon fiber style is just alike.

Once again ive also tested my car against an accord v6. I killed the v6

 
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right, because you can't adjust the a/f with an ecu or fms.

if you're going to run the shot you are, i'd seriously consider a 4 port direct nitrous system. that way you can adjust the a/f for EACH cylinder since it ports right into the runners for each cylinder. plus it will then atomize properly and be the most evenly distributed mixture.

also, usually the nitrous jet is smaller than the fuel jet. did you mean .029 nitrous and .035 fuel?

Also make sure you check those spark plugs in EACH cylinder. If there are any signs of detonation such as tiny silver or black specks deposited on the porcelain, reduce the nitrous jet size. If the ground strap of the spark plug exhibits a bluish-rainbow coloring, reduce the nitrous jet size. If the ground straps shows signs of melting, reduce the nitrous jet size and change to a spark plug with a shorter and thicker ground strap.

 
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no he was telling the truth about his wet system. he just needs to learn a bit more about certain aspects and particular terminology so he doesn't SOUND like he's full of it when he's really not.

 
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actually the nitrous jetting supposed to be slightly higher than the fuel. Not too much but by .02 or so higher. And no those aren the correct numbers. I have the actual numbers at home but Im using like the highest jetting nitrous jet and the highest jetting fuel jet that the kit was supplied with.

And as for the terminology. I may not know what some things are called, but if you understand me then you will know what I am talking about.

 
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I check my plugs every weekend. And plugs are still in good shape. I can use extra nozzles, but thats more work and more money. Plus there is very limited space if I would have to mount more solenoids. I would have to buy alot of fitting to fit the lines from the bottle to seperate into two and go into two soldenoids and for the fuel make it go into two solenoids also. Its a pain in the ***. Im happy with what I got right now. All I wanted was so me power which I got for 500 bones

 
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what do you think of my wot switch. Its so sweet under there because even from inside the car you cannot see the switch unless its lit (only when its on). Its a very nice hiding spot so people wont know Im squeezing. I think mounted a switch in the open is jus tplain stupid and obvious.

 
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huh, usually most nitrous applications use a bigger jet for fuel than nitrous. hmmm..... maybe my memory serves me incorrectly.

 
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where did you mount the switch to arm the system?