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Originally Posted by S2000man01
..... interesting. a stock 240sx with the sr20det can run low/mid 14's fairly easily.


Tell that to this dude I know he's thinks he'll run low 12s with a simple swap .
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Im getting my first dyno after I get a new clutch and flywheel. Im getting one dyno without nitrous and one with. BTW my suspension is upgraded also. Suspension makes a big deal.
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what im suprised about is that he didnt take me. those cars would be way better to mod and gain. low 14s for a civic is good. for that sr20 he shouldve been doing easy 13s with bolt ons.
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why you guys seem so mad anyways, its rare for a 7th gen to beat a dohc. Im only making a good reputation for us 7th gens.
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Originally Posted by Civic_RedLine
why you guys seem so mad anyways, its rare for a 7th gen to beat a dohc. Im only making a good reputation for us 7th gens.
Dude you have a quick car enjoy it, don't worry about street racing as long as your haivng fun and you find your car quick who cares? Toyota camry v6 is about as fast as an sir in the 1/4 mile. Does that mean a Camry is fun to drive.

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who said I only had "just an 80 shot" I have way more than that sorry bro your wrong about the nitrous... it adds way more torque.
lol whatever. we've had this discussion and you said before you had an 80 shot. i already said 80 was an unhealthy dose for an otherwise stock engine, and if you're running more than that, you'd be detonating so hard, your engine will be toast in a month.

granted nitrous may gives you a greater boost in torque than hp, but not 210 torque with 200hp (the numbers would be much different). lol. besides you've never run at the track and you've never even dyno'd your car anyways. lol, you're just throwing out numbers!



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h&r and the handlings freakin awesome. Just wont believe h&r anymore on anything. Stated to be 1.3" drop front and rear and seems to be 3" drop way more than what they were stating even if my car had adjusted to the springs.
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Ive actually tested it out with the 04 accord v6. I didnt say I was running 200whp either, I said 200whp max because I know Im running around there probably below but no more than 200.
Im running dc stainless headers, greddy evo-2 catback, aem v2, ground wires, mr cat, aem pulleys and wideband also has a/f ratio. I was running way rich because I was 2 psi lower than what it was supposed to be. When and if the bottle pressure ison the green side then I would gained much more hp.
lol now i've heard it all. it's interesting how you put NONE of those mods in your profile, but whatever. then on top of it, you're claiming all these mods, and then say you're running RICH? lol. nitrous makes you run LEAN. not rich.
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Originally Posted by Civic_RedLine
why you guys seem so mad anyways, its rare for a 7th gen to beat a dohc. Im only making a good reputation for us 7th gens.
we're not mad. but we also dont like

gives honda owners a bad name. it's not better off than that "srt4 vs 04 cobra" video.
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call it what you want but Im sure I will be around those numbers if my pressure was just right. I was running way rich earlier because by pressure was 2psi below the best pressure. I could tell this by my gauge. If it runs good it wont be as rich but still rich.
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so then, what kind of nitrous system are you running with what shot? what kind of injection are you running? and where do your nitrous lines run into the engine? (ie where are they spraying into)
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Im not comparing my car to an srt. Ive raced one already and have lost big time only because the guy had a stage two.
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Originally Posted by Civic_RedLine
call it what you want but Im sure I will be around those numbers if my pressure was just right. I was running way rich earlier because by pressure was 2psi below the best pressure. I could tell this by my gauge. If it runs good it wont be as rich but still rich.
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so then, what kind of nitrous system are you running with what shot? what kind of injection are you running? and where do your nitrous lines run into the engine? (ie where are they spraying into)
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Im not comparing my car to an srt. Ive raced one already and have lost big time only because the guy had a stage two.
i wasn't comparing the srt to your car. i was comparing the mentality of that guy who posted his "srt4 killing an 04 cobra" video to what you're doing here. nevermind....


answer my questions already.
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so then, what kind of nitrous system are you running with what shot? what kind of injection are you running? and where do your nitrous lines run into the engine? (ie where are they spraying into)
running a wet kit. Its shooting the nitrous and fuel in the intake.
When I get my dyno #s 7thgen will be the first site to post them. After then, hopefully you'll have some respect for me when you are proved wrong.
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Im just waiting for my flywheel/clutch combo first because that will be the last performance part I will be putting on. The rest will be for something else. I might also get an ems, but thats later on. BTW did you know that the ems for our kits will work with type-s cars. So that means, if I get a k20 swap my ems will be compatible just as it is with the nitrous kit I have.
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Originally Posted by Civic_RedLine
running a wet kit. Its shooting the nitrous and fuel in the intake.
When I get my dyno #s 7thgen will be the first site to post them. After then, hopefully you'll have some respect for me when you are proved wrong.
you have a wet nitrous system shooting into your intake?

wet nitrous systems shoot directly into your intake manifold. only DRY systems go into the intake.
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Originally Posted by S2000man01
i wasn't comparing the srt to your car. i was comparing the mentality of that guy who posted his "srt4 killing an 04 cobra" video to what you're doing here. nevermind....


answer my questions already.
comparing a civic to a silvia is more believeable than comparing an srt-4 to a cobra. Those cobras are like 400 horse compared to 230 on a srt stock.
Our vics are 127 hp compared to the 202 hp red top like you said.
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you have a wet nitrous system shooting into your intake?

wet nitrous systems shoot directly into your intake manifold. only DRY systems go into the intake.

yupY! I drilled holes into my AEM "HIGH FLOW NITROUS FILTER" and placed the nozzled for fuel and nitrous there.
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j/p the nozzles are squirting inside the manifold.
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j/p the nozzles are squirting inside the manifold.
sure....

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big difference. how many jets are you running?
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u mean the size of the jets or the fuel and nitrous jets.
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no how many jets do you have period.
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mines is direct port style. only 1 set man. It goes into the rubber clamp that holds the intake into the hole. Its the best way to spray for my set-up.
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and this runs MORE than an 80 shot? lol. anything over 75, and generally wet nitrous systems are 4 port direct nitrous systems with 4 nozzles. why? because above 75 shot, the mixture will not atomize the fuel properly and evenly with only one jet, and will cause detonation in pistons.
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and did you say you were running an EMS? aem ems?

Originally Posted by Civic_RedLine
BTW did you know that the ems for our kits will work with type-s cars. So that means, if I get a k20 swap my ems will be compatible just as it is with the nitrous kit I have.
you can't use an EMS kit or ANY type of aftermarket ECU with a nitrous system, particularly a wet one. aftermarket ECUs advance your timing, which would be devastating to your engine while using it with your nitrous system.

i hope you have a beater to drive while your car is in the shop getting a new block....

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and what size shot are you running?
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and this runs MORE than an 80 shot? lol. anything over 75, and generally wet nitrous systems are 4 port direct nitrous systems with 4 nozzles. why? because above 75 shot, the mixture will not atomize the fuel properly and evenly with only one jet, and will cause detonation in pistons.
nope thats not my kit. My kit is 80 shot and runs through two nozzles. Those kits are for people running 150+ shots man. Want me to post the instructions and jet fittings and approximate hp gains?
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and did you say you were running an EMS? aem ems?

im not running ems, but I am going to. Its expensive even if you can get a deal on it.
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nope thats not my kit. My kit is 80 shot and runs through two nozzles. Those kits are for people running 150+ shots man. Want me to post the instructions and jet fittings and approximate hp gains?
lol wow.

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The main difference is for most vehicles with only a 50 - 75hp shot, a single nozzle in a common plenum chamber is perfectly suitable spraying both fuel and nitrous. Higher amounts of nitrous, requiring more fuel of course begins an unequal distribution of fuel / nitrous to all cylinders can promote lean spots and detonation.

A multiple nozzle system I.e. one nozzle per cylinder is a much better system, and more designed for higher amounts of nitrous I.e. above 75hp kits.



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