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straight from the NOS website
"Wet (nitrous mixed with fuel) nitrous systems are generally used on vehicles with forced induction or EFI vehicles using a direct port nitrous system, often with aftermarket internals. Wet nitrous systems are often safer used with these types of applications because they add the fuel the stock computer cannot compensate for"
"Wet (nitrous mixed with fuel) nitrous systems are generally used on vehicles with forced induction or EFI vehicles using a direct port nitrous system, often with aftermarket internals. Wet nitrous systems are often safer used with these types of applications because they add the fuel the stock computer cannot compensate for"
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Originally Posted by bgoetz
No the better kits such as the ZEX kit do a great job of electronically controling the nitrous/fuel mixture. I at one time was going to buy one and did a ton of research (and no not just the sticky)
so where is civic redline? i'm waiting for his apology.
it all depends on how u use it s2000man. Of course nitrous will *** up ur mtr if u use it like crazy but the same can be said when boosting. And turbo is on All the time while nitrous isnt. I would still rather have turbo in the long run
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Rep Power: 399 by the way mr "nitrous wont hurt my car and you dont know what you're talking about" civic redline guy....
This motor was a bone-stock 1999 DOHC that was a factory replacement. It was a replacement motor with less than 10K miles on it. We bought it with the intention of finding out what the breaking point of a stock powerplant would be.
These are the pictures taken after using a dry 80-shot nitrous system about 75 times (75 times hitting the ol button). The engine blew on about run number 76 and they found 2 pistons had cracked from the intense heat of using the nitrous shot.
intake port 1. notice all the residue from the damage caused by the cracked piston.
here is cylinder 1... cracked and burned up
here is an undamaged cylinder. see what it SHOULD look like?
this cylinder is not cracked, but look at the wear and tear on it (see it melting?) from nitrous use
here's the head. notice the burn marks by the valves.
cracked nitrous piston
normal piston
not that my previous post didn't prove my point. i think this sorta puts the nail in the coffin so to speak.
This motor was a bone-stock 1999 DOHC that was a factory replacement. It was a replacement motor with less than 10K miles on it. We bought it with the intention of finding out what the breaking point of a stock powerplant would be.
These are the pictures taken after using a dry 80-shot nitrous system about 75 times (75 times hitting the ol button). The engine blew on about run number 76 and they found 2 pistons had cracked from the intense heat of using the nitrous shot.
intake port 1. notice all the residue from the damage caused by the cracked piston.
here is cylinder 1... cracked and burned up
here is an undamaged cylinder. see what it SHOULD look like?
this cylinder is not cracked, but look at the wear and tear on it (see it melting?) from nitrous use
here's the head. notice the burn marks by the valves.
cracked nitrous piston
normal piston
not that my previous post didn't prove my point. i think this sorta puts the nail in the coffin so to speak.
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Originally Posted by allmotor
it all depends on how u use it s2000man. Of course nitrous will *** up ur mtr if u use it like crazy but the same can be said when boosting. And turbo is on All the time while nitrous isnt. I would still rather have turbo in the long run
oh yeah and it was a good kill (given the extent), but I owned a gst once out of three times from a dig the other two I missed a gear once and got owned and came in about a car 1/2 back the other time and I have a NA civic. So I would hope that you would destroy him with 80 extra hp. Those cars are really not that fast 210 hp and weigh in a almost 3500lbs.
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Rep Power: 289 First mistake, using dry shot. You should go with the wet so you'll have extra fuel. Its better to run rich than lean... you couldve never have known where the engine had came from. And what the hell did you do with the nitrous in order to be like that? You must have done something wrong because I have friends here that have sprayed 100+ nitrous shot on his car for 2 years and have taken it off. The engine still runs good. When my engine does blow I will probably get a k20, our engines are worth about 500 bones anyways.
You shouldve never went with the dry kit. Also you should've checked your spark plugs weekly or daily to see what the color is like.
You shouldve never went with the dry kit. Also you should've checked your spark plugs weekly or daily to see what the color is like.
Originally Posted by S2000man01
by the way mr "nitrous wont hurt my car and you dont know what you're talking about" civic redline guy....
This motor was a bone-stock 1999 DOHC that was a factory replacement. It was a replacement motor with less than 10K miles on it. We bought it with the intention of finding out what the breaking point of a stock powerplant would be.
These are the pictures taken after using a dry 80-shot nitrous system about 75 times (75 times hitting the ol button). The engine blew on about run number 76 and they found 2 pistons had cracked from the intense heat of using the nitrous shot.
intake port 1. notice all the residue from the damage caused by the cracked piston.
here is cylinder 1... cracked and burned up
here is an undamaged cylinder. see what it SHOULD look like?
this cylinder is not cracked, but look at the wear and tear on it (see it melting?) from nitrous use
here's the head. notice the burn marks by the valves.
cracked nitrous piston
normal piston
not that my previous post didn't prove my point. i think this sorta puts the nail in the coffin so to speak.
This motor was a bone-stock 1999 DOHC that was a factory replacement. It was a replacement motor with less than 10K miles on it. We bought it with the intention of finding out what the breaking point of a stock powerplant would be.
These are the pictures taken after using a dry 80-shot nitrous system about 75 times (75 times hitting the ol button). The engine blew on about run number 76 and they found 2 pistons had cracked from the intense heat of using the nitrous shot.
intake port 1. notice all the residue from the damage caused by the cracked piston.
here is cylinder 1... cracked and burned up
here is an undamaged cylinder. see what it SHOULD look like?
this cylinder is not cracked, but look at the wear and tear on it (see it melting?) from nitrous use
here's the head. notice the burn marks by the valves.
cracked nitrous piston
normal piston
not that my previous post didn't prove my point. i think this sorta puts the nail in the coffin so to speak.
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Rep Power: 289 I would take a turbo'd civic any day also. Money is the issue here people. Cant you see, I paid only 500 for the kit and about an extra bill. 600 total to get 80 shots. I pay about 30$ + tax for full 10lb fill up. Nitrous gives you the best bang for you buck. Ive looked deeply into turbo kits when I had the money to own one. I just went with suspension, looks, nitrous. Ive saved alot of money that way.
I dont think I want to turbo. This engine is basically my toy. When it brakes, I'll have another one waiting.
I dont think I want to turbo. This engine is basically my toy. When it brakes, I'll have another one waiting.
Originally Posted by deciuss
you got some issues attacking one of the people on this site that actualy knows what hes talking about. s2000man probably has more driving talent and knowhow in his little pinkey then you do in your whole body.
time and time again we have seen people blow things with there nitros set up that have been doing it for years and actualy know what they are doing. infact one of the main people that every one looked to for info on nitros destoryed is intake shaterded it into a thousand peices.
and you know what i would take a 230hp turboed civic that has the power there all the time all day long over some dumb thing that you need to not only keep paying for but can also be very unstabe and only there part of the time. he never said turboes will never add wear on the engen just not as bad.
you need to read up on turbo systems more if you think nitros is better then turbo or how about read maximum boost by corky bell to learn about how a turbo works and how it wont do all that much extra damage. i wish you lived around here so some of the turboed civics would make you eat your words
time and time again we have seen people blow things with there nitros set up that have been doing it for years and actualy know what they are doing. infact one of the main people that every one looked to for info on nitros destoryed is intake shaterded it into a thousand peices.
and you know what i would take a 230hp turboed civic that has the power there all the time all day long over some dumb thing that you need to not only keep paying for but can also be very unstabe and only there part of the time. he never said turboes will never add wear on the engen just not as bad.
you need to read up on turbo systems more if you think nitros is better then turbo or how about read maximum boost by corky bell to learn about how a turbo works and how it wont do all that much extra damage. i wish you lived around here so some of the turboed civics would make you eat your words
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Originally Posted by DIZZLE
I agree with you on most points, however, spraying at 130 is definitly MISUSE!! spraying past 4th gear (about 110mph) is very risky
D17+5th gear+6500rpm+spraying=
your car will break and then youll be 
then when you hear the repair costs youll go 
then youll say 
D17+5th gear+6500rpm+spraying=
your car will break and then youll be then when you hear the repair costs youll go then youll say Btw.. I didnt spray past 130. I sprayed til 130 though =/
I was timing spray to 15 seconds I may have even passed 15 seconds. I also sprayed in 4th to fifth. I have enough to go 85 ish on bolt-ons then nitrous its gone!
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Originally Posted by Civic_RedLine
First mistake, using dry shot. You should go with the wet so you'll have extra fuel. Its better to run rich than lean... you couldve never have known where the engine had came from. And what the hell did you do with the nitrous in order to be like that? You must have done something wrong because I have friends here that have sprayed 100+ nitrous shot on his car for 2 years and have taken it off. The engine still runs good. When my engine does blow I will probably get a k20, our engines are worth about 500 bones anyways.
You shouldve never went with the dry kit. Also you should've checked your spark plugs weekly or daily to see what the color is like.
You shouldve never went with the dry kit. Also you should've checked your spark plugs weekly or daily to see what the color is like.
so i'm still waiting to see you acknowledge both of those things.
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Originally Posted by Civic_RedLine
LOL! I know it is risky, but I was willing to risk it. You dont know how much fun I had with this guy. He was a total stranger.
Btw.. I didnt spray past 130. I sprayed til 130 though =/
I was timing spray to 15 seconds I may have even passed 15 seconds. I also sprayed in 4th to fifth. I have enough to go 85 ish on bolt-ons then nitrous its gone!
Btw.. I didnt spray past 130. I sprayed til 130 though =/
I was timing spray to 15 seconds I may have even passed 15 seconds. I also sprayed in 4th to fifth. I have enough to go 85 ish on bolt-ons then nitrous its gone!
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Rep Power: 289 I never said that nitrous is good for your car. I know how dangerous nitrous is. I know what it could do. **I did read your info!**
It is still not going to stop me from using it though. It just scared me more when Im using it because I think of this stuff before i flip the switch.
This post was originally about a friendly race, not how nitrous could blow your engine.
It is still not going to stop me from using it though. It just scared me more when Im using it because I think of this stuff before i flip the switch.
This post was originally about a friendly race, not how nitrous could blow your engine.
Originally Posted by S2000man01
wow... you just completely ignored my entire post. as i said. nitrous burns hotter. and does a hell of a lot more wear and tear on your car than a turbo. end of story. i also didn't see any apology anywhere, considering you said i had no idea what the hell i was talking about, and that i watched too much fast and furious. i'd call that some pretty blatent flaming, considering you were quite wrong.
so i'm still waiting to see you acknowledge both of those things.
so i'm still waiting to see you acknowledge both of those things.
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Originally Posted by DIZZLE
hey man do you have any pics of your setup? a cardomain site or something? where did you mount your solenoids ? I like seeing peoples nitrous set up!
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Rep Power: 811 lets say they're both bad and call it a day. a turbo can cause more damage than nitrous if you just throw on the kit without tuning or building the engine. Why not build the engine and run nitrous safely? It'll still be alot cheaper than turbo.
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Originally Posted by Civic_RedLine
ok nitrous is worse.
but I still think turbo is only safe at a safe boost.
but I still think turbo is only safe at a safe boost.
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Rep Power: 289 agreed. Can we end this now s2000man. I want to build internals, but its costly. So I will build internals in the long run. Then that means im going to get turbo for this civic.
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Originally Posted by DIZZLE
hey man do you have any pics of your setup? a cardomain site or something? where did you mount your solenoids ? I like seeing peoples nitrous set up!
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I cant post the rest of the picturs because they too big. I even used smallest setting on camera.
give me your aim and ill send it there or via e-mail.
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