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Exactly! That's what i meant when i said it's like Bin Laden running into the white house screaming Ji'Had! What ya think'll happen to him!?

 
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he finally knew he could not win this dumb argument...so he finally LEFT!

 
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he's entitled to his own opinion, but he should probably just get his facts straight and stop being so argumentative

 
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good if he comes back I will find out were he lives and cut his Fu*king ***** off so the fu*cker can not reproduce

 
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Reading comprehension owns you. Someone earlier mentioned that the tC's torque output was NOT impressive. I was merely setting him straight by comparing the torque output of the tC to other engines of the same class. I got my facts straight... maybe some of you should actually think before spouting out BS.

The topic of this thread was about the civic vs. scion tc. It's totally believable that a 5speed civic beat an auto tC. What there is to be proud about, i do not know. Just take it as this: The civic was not made to go fast. Its D17 was not engineered with performance coming to mind. Neither is the scion. However, as fast as one can mod the civic to be, one can always mod the scion to be faster. 2.4 DOHC > 1.7 SOHC...it's as simple as that

haha...geez, too many sensitive civic owners in this thread.

 
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dear sir,
I challenge to come find out where i live and attempt to "cut off my *****".


This is the internet...grow a fscking brain.

 
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so the almighty toyota 2.4L is more impressive than other 2.3-2.5L engines? given the number of engines with similar displacement putting down the same, slightly worse or slightly better numbers, hardly. that engine has also been doing that for years in the camry. apparently, reading comprehension owns you, too.

edit: in review:

SCION/TOYOTA DOHC I4 2.4L 163 LB/FT
NISSAN DOHC I4 2.5L 180 LB/FT
ACURA/HONDA DOHC I4 2.4L 166 LB/FT
MAZDA 2.3L DOHC I4 150 LB/FT
SUBARU 2.5L SOHC H4 165 LB/FT

like, OMG, Toyota is so incredibly impressive compared to other engines in its class!

 
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i challenge dragoon to cut off my ***** too .. !

 
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This is the original post. He was just listing for fun a couple cars he raced that day. He also later noted that he raced an auto tC. He beat it, so now we all know a 5 speed civic can beat an auto tC. That is it.

Now your logic that a civic is crap because no matter how much you build it up, it will lose to a modded tC is crap. I'm not saying it's not true, but your ideology is crap.

So lets say a turbo civic guy is just minding his own business at a stop light and some *** hole tC owner starts revving at the line. You know the end of that story. The whole point is to make your car faster then expected than other cars in the street. So now the guy is faster than every stock tC out there, which is much more than modded tCs. Now he can go out make most tC owners feel bad.

 
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learn to read. There is a difference between saying that an engine's output is impressive and saying that the engine is NOT unimpressive.

 
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Let's see, how is my reasoning considered "crap"?

N/A
2.4l DOHC > 1.7l SOHC

Turbo
2.4l DOHC > 1.7l SOHC

does everyone here lack common sense? Because it sure seems like it.

 
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it's really not.

 
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Exactly, so the tC's engine is comparable to the torque output found in many of the other engines in its class. You misunderstood me. I wasn't saying that the tc's tq output was impressive. I was saying that it's not unimpressive. Notice the difference. Gosh, i feel like i'm teaching a 2nd grade reading comprehension class over here.

"2.4 litters of displacement and only 163lbs of torque NOT TO IMPRESSIVE". (bgoetz, pg.1)

 
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no, you weren't, Senator Kerry.

 
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Well President Bush, if your IQ was in the triple digits, you would be able to comprehend what I'm saying.

 
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Dude, I'm not comparing potential fool. You and I both know that a Turbo civic will beat a tC, a RSX, and whatever close to those cars that is stock. Am I correct? You know I am and we should both agree on this.

What we don't agree on is kind of weird. Your saying a civic should never be considered faster than a tC based on potential. This is what I consider crap. If a civic is built up, even with a turbo to be faster than a tC or RSX, I say good for the Civic and props too. You can't except that. Why, because of the dollar per horsepower factor?

Why don't you compare an EVO and tC, but take off the turbo of the EVO to make it fair. You don't do that to compare. It's BULL. A faster car, is a faster car. Simple as that. You need to open your eyes because not everyone can start off with a tC, RSX, or EVO and start modding to get faster. Some of us can only afford to pay for a Civic, but wish to have something as fast as a RSX or tC.

I know your from ClubRSX and you used this thread trying to make the 7thgen members looks bad and make yourself look cool by linking to your site. It would be the same way if some guy in an Evo came to your site to bash on your car because it would never have as much potential as the Evo.

 
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I would give the same props too. Notice that i only started commenting negatively on the d17 when a member (Gotti) stepped up and acted like his automatic turbo civic was all that.

 
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How about we all agree both cars are slow? They are designed for fuel economy not racing, just drop it.

 
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NO MINES A RACE CAR I CAN BEAT ANYONE!

 
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I get 21mpg in the vette and average 24mpg or so on the freeway without traffic.
amazing isnt it? dont believe me if you dont want to!
what does the TC get?

 
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omg...let's all go out and buy a C6. If we could afford it, trust me, we would

 
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just go f*ck yourself. Leave me out of this.

 
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Not to change the subject, but I figured you were 30 or something until I just looked at your profile. Where do you work to afford this? Sign me up.

 
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i think it would take a turbo civic or a supercharged tc to be faster than me.

http://uic.edu/~jhussa2/hondataroll.avi

 
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I haven't looked, but I'm assuming you posted a vid of your hella fast car. Mad props to you. But you are just one of the few RSX cars that are modded that fast. A turbo civic will beat most oem street cars. And that's the point.

 
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alot of the people that race do not race with stock cars, so comparing a modded civic to a stock car is pointless.

 
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HAHA! That was a funny vid. I saw somewhere, maybe in Superhonda, some guy made a vid with his DC5 with his DC headers, basically it was kind of like that, except his sounded like an F1 car.

 
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I guess it's different where you are because anyone with a car in California thinks they are a racer, stock car or not. This is on the streets, and from what I have experienced, nearly any type of car will rev at you. I don't race because I know I will lose to alot of cars out there and I haven't done any performance mods, besides suspension. But that doesn't prevent RSXs, Integras, Preludes, freakin SUVs or Mustangs, even an M3 to rev at me to make me feel slow. If you don't see my point by now, I guess it's all perspective. So all those cars know my stock Civic is slower than them, but they still want to race. Therefore, suprise suprise, people build sleeper turbo civics to kick these kind of people's ***. Period.

"Comparing modded civic to stock car is pointless"???? Then why modify? I guess you only compare your car to other modded RSXs then. I don't see why a Civic EX at around $17,000 out the door can be turboed for less than a RSX type S and be a little faster.

But I don't even know why I argue. I know cars have different potentials and the civic's potential is not nearly as much as an RSX. But to some people, that's all they can afford to start off with. Me...I would probably save up for an RSX too. Love the new 05 Type S that runs mid to high 14s with a CAI.