2000 Prelude....not to impressive
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i have a 02 civic ex 5-speed and a 90 accord lx auto and smoked this kid at work with a 99 prelude auto-shift with both of my cars every time we raced. i know my car is slow. and now i know that auto preludes are slow.
uh what the hell? ... an 00 prelude would kill you easily, auto or manual unless the guy is just learning how to drive stick
weighs a shitload? 00 preludes run low 15's bone stock in the 1/4 mile. they're only 400 pounds heavier than you are, with over 70 hp and just about 30 tq on you ... I too can't wait for the vid
weighs a shitload? 00 preludes run low 15's bone stock in the 1/4 mile. they're only 400 pounds heavier than you are, with over 70 hp and just about 30 tq on you ... I too can't wait for the vid
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Originally Posted by hwani.h22a.
In *general theory*, DOHC has top-end advantage over SOHC because of double over head cam instead of single. exhaustion is much better in terms of flowing.
however, DOHC tend to lose slight low-end torque over SOHC.
however, DOHC tend to lose slight low-end torque over SOHC.
DOHC I4 w/ small valves (4 per cylinder):
oo oo oo oo
oo oo oo oo
SOHC or Pushrod w/ large valves (2 per cylinder):
O O O O
O O O O
The real test of flow is VALVE AREA, not number of camshafts or number of valves. So, even thought the DOHC has MORE valves, the actual valve AREA is similar, and therefore the volumetric flow-rate of the exhaust or intake will be about the same. Now, the only thing not taken into account here that is an advantage of DOHC is that because each individual valve is smaller, and therefore, given similar valve composition, lighter, the smaller/lighter DOHC valves can be opened and closed faster allowing higher revving and therefore multiplying the torque number by a higher rpm and making more hp.
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Rep Power: 285 Oh, and BTW, to the guy who said "For having DOHC and 200hp, its not that fast," DOHC and 200hp are not independent variables. The 200hp is BECAUSE of the DOHC. Thats like saying that a WRX has 227hp AND a turbo, or a Civic has 127hp PLUS/IN ADDITION TO vtec. It has 200hp and it isn't somehow BETTER than your average 200hp car BECAUSE it has DOHC. It IS a 200hp car BECAUSE it has DOHC.
Oh, and barring terrible drivers and/or strange conditions, a 2000 Prelude should beat any lightly modded 4-cylinder Accord or Civic (except CTR's, or Si's maybe)
Oh, and barring terrible drivers and/or strange conditions, a 2000 Prelude should beat any lightly modded 4-cylinder Accord or Civic (except CTR's, or Si's maybe)
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Originally Posted by Blainestang
Oh, and BTW, to the guy who said "For having DOHC and 200hp, its not that fast," DOHC and 200hp are not independent variables. The 200hp is BECAUSE of the DOHC. Thats like saying that a WRX has 227hp AND a turbo, or a Civic has 127hp PLUS/IN ADDITION TO vtec. It has 200hp and it isn't somehow BETTER than your average 200hp car BECAUSE it has DOHC. It IS a 200hp car BECAUSE it has DOHC.
Oh, and barring terrible drivers and/or strange conditions, a 2000 Prelude should beat any lightly modded 4-cylinder Accord or Civic (except CTR's, or Si's maybe)
Oh, and barring terrible drivers and/or strange conditions, a 2000 Prelude should beat any lightly modded 4-cylinder Accord or Civic (except CTR's, or Si's maybe)
That too is incorrect. There are many 200+ BHP cars that are SOHC. Valve train configuration, surprisingly, has little to do with ultimate power production.
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Originally Posted by Metallica454
Just because a car has DOHC doesnt make it fast.
So are you saying a 200hp DOHC car that weighs the same as a 200hp SOHC car will be faster? You're kidding right? Like I said: DOHC doesn't mean fast, it's just an engine configuration.
When C&D tested the Prelude, they tested an SH (the heavier one) with a manual. They ran a 6.8 to 60 with it. Either the 'lude was an auto, or the guy couldn't drive. A Prelude should beat out a 4 cyl Accord any day.
So are you saying a 200hp DOHC car that weighs the same as a 200hp SOHC car will be faster? You're kidding right? Like I said: DOHC doesn't mean fast, it's just an engine configuration.
When C&D tested the Prelude, they tested an SH (the heavier one) with a manual. They ran a 6.8 to 60 with it. Either the 'lude was an auto, or the guy couldn't drive. A Prelude should beat out a 4 cyl Accord any day.
Ex accord 4 cylinder also has a doch and I think its 150 hp. Someting was truly wrong with the prelude. prelude has someting like 200hp and its quite a bit lighter.
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Originally Posted by JoeB18R
Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzt!
That too is incorrect. There are many 200+ BHP cars that are SOHC. Valve train configuration, surprisingly, has little to do with ultimate power production.
That too is incorrect. There are many 200+ BHP cars that are SOHC. Valve train configuration, surprisingly, has little to do with ultimate power production.
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Originally Posted by JoeB18R
Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzt!
That too is incorrect. There are many 200+ BHP cars that are SOHC. Valve train configuration, surprisingly, has little to do with ultimate power production.
That too is incorrect. There are many 200+ BHP cars that are SOHC. Valve train configuration, surprisingly, has little to do with ultimate power production.
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Oh, I see how you understood what I was saying, but that is not what I meant. I know that plenty of SOHC and Pushrod cars make way more power than that. I was just saying that 200hp and DOHC are not independent variables. You can't say that your car is 200hp AND DOHC as if that is inherently better than 200hp and pushrod. Understand what I am saying? We are in agreement that DOHC is not necessarily better than any other setup.
1. power produced
2. weight
3. gearing (tranny and axles)
4. power curve.
5. drivetrain loss
6. skill
If all these were equal, it doesnt matter what setup you use, it would be an exact equal.
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Originally Posted by pnoyster2k1cvic
why don't you come down to vegas and we'll show you a piece of **** D17a2 can do hehehehehe 
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Rep Power: 305 I'd rather have an RX-8 than a cobra or a old school charger. The chassis is so rigid on an RX-8, the suspesion really gets to do its job and it does it well. Its got a small engine and it sits really low, I love how you could just flick that car. Anyhow I'm not Hoorsepower hungry. The RX-8 is far more a race car than a mustang cobra. But I guess I'm gonna get called a ricer cause I'd opt for the refined car over the American Muscle straightline car.
Originally Posted by nindoo
Youll never convince them. They don't get its the same reason they would think 1000 pounds of feathers is lighter than 1000 pounds of rocks.
Ex accord 4 cylinder also has a doch and I think its 150 hp. Someting was truly wrong with the prelude. prelude has someting like 200hp and its quite a bit lighter.
Ex accord 4 cylinder also has a doch and I think its 150 hp. Someting was truly wrong with the prelude. prelude has someting like 200hp and its quite a bit lighter.
the ex accord from 98-02 are not dohc, they are sohc...
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Originally Posted by z00mX
the ex accord from 98-02 are not dohc, they are sohc...
The v6 is sohc and there is an lx thats dohc at 135 hp and the ex is 150 hp sohc, your right.
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