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Old Nov 2, 2003
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Allright, firstoff, the cajun never claimed to have a Z06. Nowhere in any of his posts did he say "my Z06." He did say "my vette," which is correct. Second, your power to weight ratio means jack ****. So your little mini has a 6lb ratio compared to the vettes 8. He's still going to smoke your mini.
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hey hey.. where is that video of that guys civic hatch smoking a VIPER and the driver of the viper saying "damn, that is one fast bitch!!"????
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on a side note, anybody have the link to the webpage with that 10 second tube frame civic? That thing kicked ***
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Originally posted by 88IROC-Z
Allright, firstoff, the cajun never claimed to have a Z06. Nowhere in any of his posts did he say "my Z06." He did say "my vette," which is correct. Second, your power to weight ratio means jack ****. So your little mini has a 6lb ratio compared to the vettes 8. He's still going to smoke your mini.
You're right... power to weight means nothing....


tell that to the 180hp lotus elise..... it runs 12's.
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That mini would have to have slicks to get sub 5's in the 0-60, front wheel drive is known to have shitty 0-60 times unless you have slicks, and can launch hard
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Originally posted by 88IROC-Z
on a side note, anybody have the link to the webpage with that 10 second tube frame civic? That thing kicked ***
cheesefrog CIVIC runs 10s and its nothing near a tube frame thing.. its a stock body hatch..
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Now I did see that dude cheesefrog beat a viper on video. That was funny as hell, he is cool! Guys I am not saying it cant happen. There are many things that I didnt think was true until I was proven wrong by seeing it. I just would have to see it to believe it. Also I know That cheesefrog was probably spraying when he beat that Viper. Give me a 50-100 shot on the vette, hell on the S2000 for that matter and who knows what kind of crazy stuff could happen! NO2 only costs $600-$750 but I am not willing to take that kind of chance with any of my cars.
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nope he wasnt spraying..

i dont know what the **** he did to his car, but hes FAST and doesnt have N2
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i know that beast is turbo'd..... but that viper was also NOT even NEAR stock.
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Originally posted by 88IROC-Z
Second, your power to weight ratio means jack ****. So your little mini has a 6lb ratio compared to the vettes 8. He's still going to smoke your mini.
did you actually think that made sence when you were typing it?

your not a smart man are you? close minded jackass.
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Originally posted by Hawk
did you actually think that made sence when you were typing it?

your not a smart man are you? close minded jackass.
Who the **** are you? You think you can talk **** just because I don't know you?

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Who the **** are you? You think you can talk **** just because I don't know you? **** off immigrant
i'm being serious man.. you actually thought that made sence?

i see someone can't admit when they are wrong

oh but i forgot, race teams try to shave weight for no reason right?

btw. didn't know being born in america made a person a immigrant.
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Im sorry, regardless of where you are from, what I said was wrong.
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Im sorry, regardless of where you are from, what I said was wrong.
no problem man, just trying to shed some light.

A cars speed, through a straight line, is all about power to weight. a car with a better power to weight ratio will win, unless the driver sucks of course.
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Yeah, ok I'll admit I was wrong. But im not gonna give up that easily. Yes power to weight will always win, in theory. Taking other things into account however- Aerodynamic drag, traction, drivetrain losses- will change the story completly.
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Damn I missed the fireworks. Anyway you hit it on the head there man drag, traction, drivetrain, rear wheel drive as opposed to front, weight distribution of the vehicle.

Originally posted by 88IROC-Z
Yeah, ok I'll admit I was wrong. But im not gonna give up that easily. Yes power to weight will always win, in theory. Taking other things into account however- Aerodynamic drag, traction, drivetrain losses- will change the story completly.
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Originally posted by 88IROC-Z
Yeah, ok I'll admit I was wrong. But im not gonna give up that easily. Yes power to weight will always win, in theory. Taking other things into account however- Aerodynamic drag, traction, drivetrain losses- will change the story completly.
Aerodynamics obviously the vette wins, but that won't really be a concern till about 130+, the mini tops out at 135 so anywhere past where aerodynamics kick in to play the vette will own.

traction, well both will have problems without slicks, the vette may have a tad more do to there being less weight by the drive wheels. but as we know FWD sucks for drag racing so..

The power to weight raito's i calculated accounted for WHP so drivetrain loss is out of it.

I'd love to see a video of the two cars racing, it'd be a site.
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Me too, but I am a corvette man first and foremost so I would have to pull for the vette. Then again the corvette probably does cost at least twice as much.........................but then again no matter what the corvette is a corvette and the mini will always be a mini..........which would you rather drive?
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Originally posted by ccajun4real
Me too, but I am a corvette man first and foremost so I would have to pull for the vette. Then again the corvette probably does cost at least twice as much.........................but then again no matter what the corvette is a corvette and the mini will always be a mini..........which would you rather drive?
theres no denying the obvious. I'd buy a Z06 in a heartbeat if i could afford one.

but at the same point, i love seeing the underdog win
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Originally posted by 88IROC-Z
Yeah, ok I'll admit I was wrong. But im not gonna give up that easily. Yes power to weight will always win, in theory. Taking other things into account however- Aerodynamic drag, traction, drivetrain losses- will change the story completly.
Yeah I should have added as such to my post. You're right, power to wieght is by NO MEANS everything. All the other things you listed, including one huge one... POWER BAND make a difference.


And thanks to both of you for chilling on the flaming.
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It is all in good fun, take care man
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Originally posted by ccajun4real
Me too, but I am a corvette man first and foremost so I would have to pull for the vette. Then again the corvette probably does cost at least twice as much.........................but then again no matter what the corvette is a corvette and the mini will always be a mini..........which would you rather drive?
The mini. Everyone expects a vette to be fast. Also I think I would have more fun tossing the mini around in the corners.
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dam this thread is old.. lol

whoever said why compare a 15 year old car to modern one... to show what muscle power is about.

muscle power is great, but i rather stick with new cars cause i dont want to spend money purchasing parts for my car. and its hard to find parts for ur 1977 car.
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