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wrong. the old saying is car - 100lbs = -0.1 seconds in the 1/4. it was never ever related to hp, sorry.
Car - 100 lbs dead weight = -0.1 sec
Car + 10 hp = -0.1 sec
Car - 10 lbs rotational weight = -0.1 sec
THUS we can conclude that.... Car - 100 lbs of dead weight = Car -10 lbs rotations weight = Car + 10 hp
But like i said earlier you won't see this on a dyno for obvious reasons but the performance gains would be similar.
Another half assed attempt to prove me wrong, sorry
And here are some other "old sayings" that i came across
Every additional point of compression will net about a 4% increase in power
An 11 degree drop in air intake temperature will result in about a 1% gain in power
Each additional psi of boost will add about 5-7% more power
10 extra degrees of cam duration will raise peak power point by 500 rpm
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Rep Power: 0 Originally posted by Got Boost???
You might want to read that again. Beacuse when a car is traveling at high speeds the rotational mass (tires, rims, brake rotors, axles, gearbox) is rotating very fast, now any object in motion has kinetic energy, you can convert this energy into torque. The torque generated by the engine must be more than the torque generated by the rotational mass in order for the car to accerlate. But like i said well get back to this somewhere around page 20.
You might want to read that again. Beacuse when a car is traveling at high speeds the rotational mass (tires, rims, brake rotors, axles, gearbox) is rotating very fast, now any object in motion has kinetic energy, you can convert this energy into torque. The torque generated by the engine must be more than the torque generated by the rotational mass in order for the car to accerlate. But like i said well get back to this somewhere around page 20.
please explain how you can convert energy into a unit of work.
1/2 mv^2 = FD??
uhh...i am not seeing this, so elaboration would be appreciated. could have sworn that it was drag (be it air drag, friction, etc) that does not allow a car to go any faster once its reached a certain point.
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OK heres my friends celi going to 3rd gear and stoping from a 20 mph hour roll in 1st gear notice what speed he stops at and also think about how much the GT-S pulls once it hits 6200 rpm this should do til I get my *** out later tonight to make my 1st through 4th video at 115 mph easy.
OK heres my friends celi going to 3rd gear and stoping from a 20 mph hour roll in 1st gear notice what speed he stops at and also think about how much the GT-S pulls once it hits 6200 rpm this should do til I get my *** out later tonight to make my 1st through 4th video at 115 mph easy.
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Rep Power: 0 Alright i didn't read through all the posting, but reading the first page was enough to make me want to reply.
Some of you obviously don't know anything about the GTS 6 speeds or their performance capabilities. Makes sense you all drive civics, and last i checked civics don't have THAT much hp. If you dont' believe the GTS's performances i suggest taking a little hike over to newcelica.org and reading up. There have even been photos posted of peoples speedo's at 150+mph. Remember with just intake and exhaust this car is capable of running mid to low 14 second 1/4 mile times.
I as well know its VERY possible to beat a bmw on the freeway. I raced a 2 door 3 series one night on the freeway. We would take off at about 80mph, i would downshift to 4th and pull about a car length ahead. At about 140mph i was still at least half a car length ahead of the bmw. He tried a few times at racing me, i think because he couldn't believe he was getting beat by a little celica. But at 140mph my car was still pulling. I personally know people who have hit an upwards of 155mph in their celica with intake and exhaust.
I'm telling you though if you don't believe us on the performance abilities of these cars go over and start reading up on newcelica.org or ask some questions. Don't call BS on a car you obviously know nothing about.
Some of you obviously don't know anything about the GTS 6 speeds or their performance capabilities. Makes sense you all drive civics, and last i checked civics don't have THAT much hp. If you dont' believe the GTS's performances i suggest taking a little hike over to newcelica.org and reading up. There have even been photos posted of peoples speedo's at 150+mph. Remember with just intake and exhaust this car is capable of running mid to low 14 second 1/4 mile times.
I as well know its VERY possible to beat a bmw on the freeway. I raced a 2 door 3 series one night on the freeway. We would take off at about 80mph, i would downshift to 4th and pull about a car length ahead. At about 140mph i was still at least half a car length ahead of the bmw. He tried a few times at racing me, i think because he couldn't believe he was getting beat by a little celica. But at 140mph my car was still pulling. I personally know people who have hit an upwards of 155mph in their celica with intake and exhaust.
I'm telling you though if you don't believe us on the performance abilities of these cars go over and start reading up on newcelica.org or ask some questions. Don't call BS on a car you obviously know nothing about.
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Rep Power: 0 lol doh another celi owner that knows their car lol don't worry Im gonna school this boy once I post my Vid once I dont gotta worry bout cops!! but we'll see this boy is gonna get owned in about an Hour ish after the races tomorrow I'll poost the vid on friday of my 1-4!!!
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I am so confused, I cant even keep up with who said what, when, why, what the hell they were talking about.
About HP/Weight ratio:
The horsepower-to-weight ratio gives you a number.
Someone mentioned his cars ratio was 13.
That means every HP has to push, pull, drag whatever 13 pounds.
So dropping 13 pounds from the car is ABOUT the same thing as
gaining 1 HP throughout the rpm band, beacuse theres is 13 less
pounds to pull. Keep in mind this is without loss of torque, as a lot of
times gaining HP in one area means losing some in another.
I was going to post a bunch of formulas too, and actually explain them, but I feel that has been covered, just not explained very well, or some people just havent been taught well enough to understand well enough to argue their point, even though it might be a valid one.
If you guys really want to know a little more, got to howstuffworks.com and search for "horsepower" or "Torque"
They touch on some good points and everyone could leave the site with a better understanding of HP & TQ, if not, you shouldnt be here arguing your point, because you know your right, unless you feel like teaching someone a lesson(not in a bad way)
I personally dont feel like hurting my brain trying to explain something I'm not qualified to do exceptionally, its 1:00 AM and I have a dissertation tomorrow and neep my ugly sleep, so check out that site and then come back and argue your points.
I've had fun reading your points.
Peace out and hope I'm not offending anyone, its not really directed at anyone in particular, just a little brain candy.
I am so confused, I cant even keep up with who said what, when, why, what the hell they were talking about.
About HP/Weight ratio:
The horsepower-to-weight ratio gives you a number.
Someone mentioned his cars ratio was 13.
That means every HP has to push, pull, drag whatever 13 pounds.
So dropping 13 pounds from the car is ABOUT the same thing as
gaining 1 HP throughout the rpm band, beacuse theres is 13 less
pounds to pull. Keep in mind this is without loss of torque, as a lot of
times gaining HP in one area means losing some in another.
I was going to post a bunch of formulas too, and actually explain them, but I feel that has been covered, just not explained very well, or some people just havent been taught well enough to understand well enough to argue their point, even though it might be a valid one.
If you guys really want to know a little more, got to howstuffworks.com and search for "horsepower" or "Torque"
They touch on some good points and everyone could leave the site with a better understanding of HP & TQ, if not, you shouldnt be here arguing your point, because you know your right, unless you feel like teaching someone a lesson(not in a bad way)
I personally dont feel like hurting my brain trying to explain something I'm not qualified to do exceptionally, its 1:00 AM and I have a dissertation tomorrow and neep my ugly sleep, so check out that site and then come back and argue your points.
I've had fun reading your points.
Peace out and hope I'm not offending anyone, its not really directed at anyone in particular, just a little brain candy.
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i said i wouldnt post anymore but this was irresistable.
please explain how you can convert energy into a unit of work.
1/2 mv^2 = FD??
uhh...i am not seeing this, so elaboration would be appreciated. could have sworn that it was drag (be it air drag, friction, etc) that does not allow a car to go any faster once its reached a certain point.
please explain how you can convert energy into a unit of work.
1/2 mv^2 = FD??
uhh...i am not seeing this, so elaboration would be appreciated. could have sworn that it was drag (be it air drag, friction, etc) that does not allow a car to go any faster once its reached a certain point.
OK imagine a FWD car with the front tires suspended in the car. Now you bring the wheels up to speed say 80 mph. Now you put the car in neutral, do the tires suddenly stop spinning?? No because an object in motion will stay in mation until another outside force acts upon it. Since the tires carry a good amount of kinetic energy it will take awhile for them to come to a stop. Now in this case baceause no one has developed a frictionless bearing yet there will be some forces acting against our spinning wheel. Now remember the car is in neutral and the wheel is spinning on its own. Now grab the wheel, does it jerk your arms as you try to slow it down?? That jerk can be measure as torque. Now if your still doubtful that the wheel isn't generating torque on its own, i can pull out the good ol college physics book and go through the same thing only using formulas and principles that you most likely won't understand.
can't believve this $hit made it to 5 pages this is rediculous
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Makes sense you all drive civics, and last i checked civics don't have THAT much hp
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Rep Power: 0 oh no i'm aware not everyone was calling bs and not everyone drives a civic. I'm basically generalizing why a forum like this would call bs on such a post. But i am aware not all own civics and not all were calling bs. 
edit: i just went back to the first page.. quite a few BS callers are civic owners
edit: i just went back to the first page.. quite a few BS callers are civic owners
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More importantly that who is full of it or not is these guys endangering lives by driving that fast on the freeway. And don't bother trying to justify it or tell me I'm wrong. People can merge onto the freeway, tires can blow, plenty of things can happen. They wrongly would call it an accident when in fact it's a stupid fool who doesn't deserve to have the car he's improperly driving in the wrong venue.
More importantly that who is full of it or not is these guys endangering lives by driving that fast on the freeway. And don't bother trying to justify it or tell me I'm wrong. People can merge onto the freeway, tires can blow, plenty of things can happen. They wrongly would call it an accident when in fact it's a stupid fool who doesn't deserve to have the car he's improperly driving in the wrong venue.
yes its dangerous and lots of things can go wrong. Anytimes i've ever had a fun run which isn't often its been in the far left lanes, late at night, when no one else is around.
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Rep Power: 0 OK this post is a dont try this at home thing... I went out just now like 20 mins ago and did this...... OK let me explain its upsidedown 
I couldnt hold it very well and shift at those speeds. anyways I also shifted WAY berfore my normal shift point to prove a point that even baby shifting I can hit those numbers. and clearly in the vid you can see me shift at 110 mph in 4th at 7900 rpm my fuel cutoff is 8400 I normally shift at 8350 and you woulda seen maybe even a 120 mph at 4th cause i shifted early in every gear also I had probs at the start cause I was holdin the cam. next time I'll get a copilot to hold the cam so I can get a real run in. So for all you who called bs go suck a big one!!!!! www.ksbservices.com/today/1to4shifts.rm
I couldnt hold it very well and shift at those speeds. anyways I also shifted WAY berfore my normal shift point to prove a point that even baby shifting I can hit those numbers. and clearly in the vid you can see me shift at 110 mph in 4th at 7900 rpm my fuel cutoff is 8400 I normally shift at 8350 and you woulda seen maybe even a 120 mph at 4th cause i shifted early in every gear also I had probs at the start cause I was holdin the cam. next time I'll get a copilot to hold the cam so I can get a real run in. So for all you who called bs go suck a big one!!!!! www.ksbservices.com/today/1to4shifts.rm Don't drink and post, you will end up hilarious.
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good job 00celicagts6spd, rarely do people actually go make a video for the sole purpose of owning people on an internet forum.
good job 00celicagts6spd, rarely do people actually go make a video for the sole purpose of owning people on an internet forum.
Originally posted by 00celicagts6spd
OK this post is a dont try this at home thing... I went out just now like 20 mins ago and did this...... OK let me explain its upsidedown I couldnt hold it very well and shift at those speeds. anyways I also shifted WAY berfore my normal shift point to prove a point that even baby shifting I can hit those numbers. and clearly in the vid you can see me shift at 110 mph in 4th at 7900 rpm my fuel cutoff is 8400 I normally shift at 8350 and you woulda seen maybe even a 120 mph at 4th cause i shifted early in every gear also I had probs at the start cause I was holdin the cam. next time I'll get a copilot to hold the cam so I can get a real run in. So for all you who called bs go suck a big one!!!!! www.ksbservices.com/today/1to4shifts.rm
OK this post is a dont try this at home thing... I went out just now like 20 mins ago and did this...... OK let me explain its upsidedown
I couldnt hold it very well and shift at those speeds. anyways I also shifted WAY berfore my normal shift point to prove a point that even baby shifting I can hit those numbers. and clearly in the vid you can see me shift at 110 mph in 4th at 7900 rpm my fuel cutoff is 8400 I normally shift at 8350 and you woulda seen maybe even a 120 mph at 4th cause i shifted early in every gear also I had probs at the start cause I was holdin the cam. next time I'll get a copilot to hold the cam so I can get a real run in. So for all you who called bs go suck a big one!!!!! www.ksbservices.com/today/1to4shifts.rm Yo, bro, i am having trouble viewing the video.....what did u use to make the video. I have tried winamp, windows media, and quicktime?..and secondly, if u need a copilot i would help ya out...
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Rep Power: 0 sorry guys it's in real media and its not very good cause I wanted to be as safe as possible but yeah all I can say is OWNED ha ha ha 16 seconds to get to 120 baby shifting and holding a cam at the same time I can usally hit those speeds in 15.5 seconds from dead stop.. Now next time I'll bring a passenger and do a 140 vid from dead stop takes longer to gt there but will be fun anyways!!! we'll see
Originally posted by 00celicagts6spd
sorry guys it's in real media and its not very good cause I wanted to be as safe as possible but yeah all I can say is OWNED ha ha ha 16 seconds to get to 120 baby shifting and holding a cam at the same time I can usally hit those speeds in 15.5 seconds from dead stop.. Now next time I'll bring a passenger and do a 140 vid from dead stop takes longer to gt there but will be fun anyways!!! we'll see
sorry guys it's in real media and its not very good cause I wanted to be as safe as possible but yeah all I can say is OWNED ha ha ha 16 seconds to get to 120 baby shifting and holding a cam at the same time I can usally hit those speeds in 15.5 seconds from dead stop.. Now next time I'll bring a passenger and do a 140 vid from dead stop takes longer to gt there but will be fun anyways!!! we'll see
That was a tight video...u got ***** as well to go that speed holding the camera.
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sorry guys it's in real media and its not very good cause I wanted to be as safe as possible but yeah all I can say is OWNED ha ha ha 16 seconds to get to 120 baby shifting and holding a cam at the same time I can usally hit those speeds in 15.5 seconds from dead stop.. Now next time I'll bring a passenger and do a 140 vid from dead stop takes longer to gt there but will be fun anyways!!! we'll see
sorry guys it's in real media and its not very good cause I wanted to be as safe as possible but yeah all I can say is OWNED ha ha ha 16 seconds to get to 120 baby shifting and holding a cam at the same time I can usally hit those speeds in 15.5 seconds from dead stop.. Now next time I'll bring a passenger and do a 140 vid from dead stop takes longer to gt there but will be fun anyways!!! we'll see
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Rep Power: 0 hey moron you try drivin ith a damn camera in your hand un exported it's 16 seconds so **** off you're still wrong the car can do it so just grow up and admit you were WRONG!!!
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hey moron you try drivin ith a damn camera in your hand un exported it's 16 seconds so **** off you're still wrong the car can do it so just grow up and admit you were WRONG!!!
hey moron you try drivin ith a damn camera in your hand un exported it's 16 seconds so **** off you're still wrong the car can do it so just grow up and admit you were WRONG!!!
edit: just did a search on newcelica.org for some trap speeds. a guy from your dsr team ran this time, which is about what you say you run
Me:
R/T: .558
60ft: 2.391
330ft: 6.369
1/8 ET: 9.670
1/8 MPH: 75.51
1/4 ET: 14.820
1/4 MPH: 95.45
R/T: .558
60ft: 2.391
330ft: 6.369
1/8 ET: 9.670
1/8 MPH: 75.51
1/4 ET: 14.820
1/4 MPH: 95.45
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I can usally hit those speeds in 15.5 seconds from dead stop
EX: 2001 M3 does 13.2 @ 105 so 3 seconds later the M3 should be around 120
You owned a good number of people that called BS on your speed at the end of 4th but sometimes its just better to suck it up and admit you made an error.
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Rep Power: 0 this is total BS! look what i just found on a SRT forum...
This is a lighlty modded SRT4 that runs 13.462@104.11. so your into low 13s or high 12s now in your stock Celica are you?
and here's the vid to back it up foo!
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I know, I know.......it's not as kick *** as a cobra hitting 160mph in 24 seconds - all I can say about that is DAMN! I start accellerating right at 2 seconds into to vid (maybe like 1.8 or so) and shut down at 127mph around 22 seconds, so that's about 20 seconds to 127 with a gentle take off and granny shifting. I guess that's not bad considering my mods (in sig + welfare exhaust).
and here's the vid to back it up foo!
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uh no, i wont believe your bs unexported excuse. try again little one. by the way, im not wrong. 0-120 in 16 seconds lmao...you got owned by your own video...what a moron.
edit: just did a search on newcelica.org for some trap speeds. a guy from your dsr team ran this time, which is about what you say you run
ok, so high 14s in a modded celica nets a trap of 95 mph. since this guy has more mods than you, can you honestly say you jump 20 mph (to 115) in a little more than a second? uh no you are full of crap and by the video i can tell you wheel hopped indicating you arent such a godly driver as you claim.
uh no, i wont believe your bs unexported excuse. try again little one. by the way, im not wrong. 0-120 in 16 seconds lmao...you got owned by your own video...what a moron.
edit: just did a search on newcelica.org for some trap speeds. a guy from your dsr team ran this time, which is about what you say you run
ok, so high 14s in a modded celica nets a trap of 95 mph. since this guy has more mods than you, can you honestly say you jump 20 mph (to 115) in a little more than a second? uh no you are full of crap and by the video i can tell you wheel hopped indicating you arent such a godly driver as you claim.
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Rep Power: 0 by the way here are some links to times people have run on modded celica's... definantly better then a 14.8
http://www.newcelica.org/other/track/11.htm
http://www.newcelica.org/other/track/15.htm
http://www.newcelica.org/other/track/28.htm
http://www.newcelica.org/other/track/161.htm
http://www.newcelica.org/other/track/169.htm
http://www.newcelica.org/other/track/195.htm
http://www.newcelica.org/other/track/197.htm
http://www.newcelica.org/other/track/212.htm
http://www.newcelica.org/other/track/233.htm
http://www.newcelica.org/other/track/245.htm
http://www.newcelica.org/other/track/11.htm
http://www.newcelica.org/other/track/15.htm
http://www.newcelica.org/other/track/28.htm
http://www.newcelica.org/other/track/161.htm
http://www.newcelica.org/other/track/169.htm
http://www.newcelica.org/other/track/195.htm
http://www.newcelica.org/other/track/197.htm
http://www.newcelica.org/other/track/212.htm
http://www.newcelica.org/other/track/233.htm
http://www.newcelica.org/other/track/245.htm
Originally posted by J2KGTS6
14.8 is a slower time for a modded celica. I had a friend up here who hit 14.9 bone stock at sacramento raceway. I also know people who have hit 14.3 with just intake and exhaust. Regardless of wheel hop he is still a good driver. Wheel hop is actually hard to avoid in a stock celica unless you get aftermarket springs. I had wheel hop real bad before i got TRD springs on my Celica. You really should learn more about these cars before you go trying to talk crap. You may have some knowledge in other area's but its clear your knowledge of the celica is lacking.
14.8 is a slower time for a modded celica. I had a friend up here who hit 14.9 bone stock at sacramento raceway. I also know people who have hit 14.3 with just intake and exhaust. Regardless of wheel hop he is still a good driver. Wheel hop is actually hard to avoid in a stock celica unless you get aftermarket springs. I had wheel hop real bad before i got TRD springs on my Celica. You really should learn more about these cars before you go trying to talk crap. You may have some knowledge in other area's but its clear your knowledge of the celica is lacking.
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I'm not saying he is or isn't....but what exactly in that video made you determine he was a good driver? He pressed on the gas, then shifted...pressed on the gas again etc etc... Now for all I know he is mario andretti Jr....so I'm not knocking anyones driving skills....just want to know what you found so fantastic.
I'm not saying he is or isn't....but what exactly in that video made you determine he was a good driver? He pressed on the gas, then shifted...pressed on the gas again etc etc... Now for all I know he is mario andretti Jr....so I'm not knocking anyones driving skills....just want to know what you found so fantastic.
