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I know that I do not want to go all out as I'm building my EM2. I see that 200-250 whp is good enough driving around the mountains of Colorado. I need to know what I can do to be able to build this much HP. I know that many suggest that I should not do an K20A3 swap because the VTEC is a wannabe VTEC but to stick to either an A or A2. Thanks.

 
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its doesnt matter if the a3 is a wannabe vtec or not...turbo it and drop in better cams...and ur good to go.

or do an a2 with I/H/E, kpro and cams, and ur looking at around 220-230whp NA.

the choice is urs

 
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Well, let me ask this; how much whp can I squeeze outta my 01 LX before I gotta worry about blowing something?

 
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115hp.

 
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Prolly 150 or so with a good tune.

 
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give me more info on this a2 N/A? PM me or aim me

 
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220 is stock on a k20a FYI.. I/H/E/Kpro you can squeeze more

 
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well ya...but the thread topic was on a3 and a2....and actually the k20a is around 200whp...know one cares about crank hp

 
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You guys think the cost difference is worth it from the k20a to the k20a2?

 
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I made 247 with no problems on a stock d17a2 with a turbo and the aem.

Just pick up dezods turbo kit, the aem ems, tune it and you'll be way faster than you would with a k swap and it's more fun imo.

 
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You hit 240 w/o a build?

 
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yea how would you hit that without a build i want to know this????

 
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Tuning with an aem ems, sfp manifold, 440's, no return line and a t3/t4e turbo on a completely stock ex motor with just arp headstuds. You guys have to understand, internals are not what make power. It's your setup. And your reliability is only as good as your tune and your management. I've been screaming that to people on this site for years, I think they're finally starting to listen.

 
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I understand they dont make power, more for rigity. I had no idea that you could makle that much power with no internal work though. Props. BTW i will be bugging the **** out of you when i get about 4g saved up =). Ill prolly wind up building the motor anyways, more for reliability than anything else. I know its not going to be easy, but i want something that i will RARELY have to fix.

 
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its gonna cost way more than four grand prolly atleast six if your gonna build internals

 
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Not to mention if you get the right year engine, you can slap a sexy JacksonRacing supercharger on it. That's what I would be down for. More reliable than a turbo (so I hear) and there's no turbo lag due to the fact it isn't one!! Just an additional 50 horses everytime you mosh the gas.

 
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he's talking about the k20a2, not the d17a2.

 
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Thanks everyone, I think I'll stick to an A2 and if I cannot afford it, then a A3 would be fine although its still a wannabe VTEC. I can always put a A or A2 block in and a do a few internals in the future. I'm looking foward of keeping my car for about 5-10 years.

 
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I just saw you're at fort carson. I have alot of friends in that area. Check out www.hondaracingcrew.com. They can point you in the right direction. Also, check out revolutions tuning. Adam is a long time friend of mine, he'll do you right.

 
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Well, I don't know jack-diddly squat about engine work...ok, actually a little. But all of my major engine work will be done by a professional. What type of engine is in my car, or should I say, comes stock in most civics? I plan on adding a cold air, changing the manifold, and adding a turbo. I would do an exhaust system, but alot of people, from what I read, say that one really doesn't do sh*t.

 
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If your boosting it will.

 
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cold air intake and exhaust are pretty much a waste if you're trying to make power with a turbo

 
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I can agree on the intake.... but you cant tell me that you are making 260whp with 1 and 5" exhaust.