c1v1c783

I wanted to know if its even worth boosting a vp model motor for the 05 civic. Since it's not a vtec motor I didn't know if it would even be worth the money. I asked a tech at my work which happens to be a honda dealership about swapping motors but he said that it's supposedly an electrical nightmare to swap motors for my year of civic. Can anyone help me with these two questions?

diskreet

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Head swap to EX head then boost. There is a DIY on it and its actually not too complicated.

http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=169411

cleancivic 05

^^yeah what he said

c1v1c783

Alright but will an ex head from an 04' work for an 05'? It should shouldn't it since they are the same motor?

white2K2EX

Yes, the 01-05 models used the same D17s.

RedBull

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wow... can you get a discount at your work? cause if you can then you are set.... head gasket and bolts aren't that cheap. I think the 20whp added compared to what my stock ES1 came with is good... and from what i've seen people post... i got 10whp more than stock EX. The biggest thing is getting a VAFCII cheap. The rest is pretty easy.

Xproductions also said some technical stuff about how it should be better when you boost with this setup... but it confused me alot.

I had the swap done and i'm happy with it.

ddevil0013

i hear the non-vtec d17 has a lower comp. ratio therefore making it better to boost

RedBull

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that has something to do with making the swapped half breed D17A1/D17A2 technically better for boosting... Xproductions talked alot about it... but i don't wanna go too much into detail about something that gives me headaches.

c1v1c783, it'd say go for it if you can find all the parts at decent price and wanna go through with it.

Just make sure you have people that know what they are doing do it for you.... i had mine worked on twice cause the first shop half @$$'d it.

djrabbi

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Swap....

gotarheels03

Nope, not worth it at all. You're better off doing a swap or just buying a factory turboed car.

blouisgod

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head swap and boost if you are really loving your ride.

Cptn. Slow

most of these people are right. If you are commited to the d17 and the Civc then head swap and turbo. Otherwise go for a swap. It's more money, but should make more power.

c1v1c783

Ya I get all parts for cost and I really do love my civic. It's a little off topic but does anyone know where I can get a 7th gen civic sticker?

MisterFrankieJ

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http://www.7thgencivic.com/estore/

A head swap isn't really necessary but if you have the money to do so than go ahead.

gearbox

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i hope you have alot of extra cash to fix all the problems you're gonna have

RedBull

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oh come on now Gearbox.... i know you had big problems, but alot of people haven't... ok i did at first... but i blame the shop for that.

Most people swear by a swap... but i know i couldn't afford that before or even now. Heck... i can't afford to boost yet.

josh_b seems to be the first one to come to mind that has done alot with the head swap being done. I asked Xproductions acouple questions back when i was getting mine done... i'll have to find the pm.

gearbox

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most of the huge turbo guys that seemed to know everything are gone and their car is back to stock.

RedBull

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^^^ your right... heck most of the knowledgable guys left are more down for saying "search" than anything... and that goes not just for swaps or boost. But there are a decent amount of great people left.... i think it's just in a transition phase.

white2K2EX

Transition to what? Realizing that modding a Civic is jumping into a pointless money pit?

gearbox

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ya, i finally reached that point