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come to the tuesday night meet.... DmikeX has 6000k (same as me) and spoonEM (robbie) has 8000k...you can compare them...8000k is dimmer than 6000k...but its more blue...if u like blue than get 8000k but your gonna suffer visibility...6000k i have to say on my car have looked brighter than other lexus is's i've driven by and my Q45 has a less compareable output

 
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HIDs = really bright headlights.

Sounds like your friend wants 8000k for color more than better visibility, which is why people get HIDs.

8000K is annoyingly blue and when you see cars with them, it makes you wonder "how long before they get pulled over for blue lights?"

 
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oh and SPAM mind if i ask how much you got the HID kit for? and what's pnp?

 
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pnp is plug and play...i got the kit for a used silver ipod mini....i traded my ipod in full working condition and an fm transmitter for it...i paid $180 for the ipod new (had a hookup from my homie at circuit city)...the mcculloch kits usually go around 280-350 or so...i got hooked up on mine cuz some guy bought it for his teg GSR but he sold his car so he was selling it...and boy do i love these HID's

 
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even when i had 4300k pure white hids you could tell they weren't halogen. 5k even has some blue to it altho its mostly white.

 
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looks nice buddy

 
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yeah, my halogens seem so dull compared to all those pretty HIDS

 
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thanks matt...yea 4300k is oem color temp (prolly the brightest) 5000k is white with slightly more blue...you will often times see the 5000k in nissan altimas with oem hids (3.5 SE/ 3.5SE-R) and nissan maximas with projectors....phillips also makes oem 6000k bulbs which are called ultinon and the rod on the side of the bulb isnt brown its blue

 
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those altima look pure blue at certain angles tho.

 
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i cant wait to see some actual night shots. I have been wondering if i should get the rebased kits from that site you posted hidexpert.com or do a complete retro. Your pics will help me with that decision

 
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hey so you think it's a good deal if i can ge tthe same HID kit you got for $290? including the installation from a pro place? cuz my friend knows someone that sells and does installs and he said he could hook it up for $290 for doing all the labor too. and can you really get pulled over for 8000k? and you mentioned phillips oem 6000k bulbs... are those just replacment bulbs for your oem housing stuff?? and it'll look just like HID 6000k?

 
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if you can get labor done too that is a pretty good deal...cheapest i found was just for the kit and it was $275...and most shops would charge more than just $15 for labor...i would go for it...

also south, if you dont wanna hastle with a retrofit than go with a rebased kit from hidexpert...its oem equipment and it'll be reliable...i got my kit cuz i got a deal on it heh...anyways good luck with ur stuff guys...im gonna take some pix soon at a darker location so stay tuned! lol

 
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Never understood why? Would someone explain? Thanks.

 
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well you can get pulled over for any hid. they are illegal on cars that do not come from the factory with em. ya they have halogen that look like 6000k but will be very dim cause all the light gets filtered except blue. the hid bulb has hardware (igniters, ballasts, etc)and adapters to make it work. totally different technology.

 
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Dime si entiendes esto porque eso me dio dudas que si eres latino o no, lol!

 
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it shows the cutoff line, which is more useful in judging different housings rather than bulbs. also to see if the aiming is right. on a good projector retrofit, there should be zero light above the cutoff line.

 
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Ah, ok. If there's light above the cutoff line, what's wrong with it?

 
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glare-what other drivers see that makes them close their eyes

 
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que?...no habla espanol...only un poquito lol...i kinda get it but its really complicated what u said...yea HID's consist of 2 bulbs which are filled with xenon gas in a pocket along with some metal halide salt, electodes, and wires...balasts with either built in or seaparate ignitors and wires...unlike other kits the mcculloch has a harness made for the safer side...instead of drawing power directly from you stock halogen harness it has a plug where u insert the two wires into than those go to relays which have 2 other wires comming out a ground wire and a power wire and the power wire gets directly connected to the battery (much safer and how you would connect oem stuff to cars)...on the line that goes to the battery there are inline fuses...so the two balasts draw power directly from the battery while your halogen plug is only used as a switch to activate relays....i have to say the price for mcculloch kits is low for what you get...everything is such high quality compared to other pnp kits

 
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Ah, thanks. I was asking you if you were latino cuz "que" means "what" in spanish... and uhm... i didnt understanda word u said

Hey, btw, send me the sidemarker template to ramcosca@gmail.com
Thanks!

 
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uhh...heh im korean hahaha....yea i know how to speak a little tiny bit of spanish cuz i know a lot of hispanics and i work with a few but thats the extent...i should put some spaces in that extremely long runon haha...ill send the template


edit: i sent the template

 
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Like I tell customers, The higher the color temperature the less lumens it puts out.

 
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Thanks for the template SPAM.

Oh, lumens is like the quantity of light?

 
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yup...thats why i stuck with 6000k...its lower lumens than 4300 which = less overall glare...plus the 9006 04-05 reflector is very good at reducing glare

 
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This is kinda off topic but I've noticed my car wants to be part of the JDM raised h00d squad. The hood is kinda raised, damnit. I'll post up pix tomorrow, lol.

 
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lol thats funny...

 
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funny, but I've had lots of PMs. hahahahahah silly forum

 
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silly forum, raised hoods are for JDM hahaha

 
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I just called a fellow n00b Boricua on the site Mr. Silly Rabbit and he got offended

 
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Ugh ya guys need to read up on HIDs instead of being quick to slap on those lamps.

1) 6000k has less lumens than 4300k, but has MORE glare. 8000k has even more glare, despite having very low lumens--why? Because the higher temperature light is at a higher frequency that glows out. Hence you never get as clean a cut off as an OEM 4300k as with say a 6000k lamp.

2) OEM 4300k HIDs look blue from some angles because of the projector, NOT the lamp. The outer edges at the cut-off are bluish especially in German projectors, hence the blue you see at angles from the top and side.

3) Glaring other drivers has less to do with cutoff and more to do with hotspots. By design Halogen reflectors focus more light to the front because the lumens is less. Hence, HIDs into Halogen reflectors *WILL* glare drivers, regardless if you use 4300k or higher. In those wall pics, the hot spot is very apparent.

4) Those HIDs you put on WILL glare drivers, even if they are aimed correctly. It's obvious by those pics that you have significant hotspots. If you ever looked at OEM HIDs, you'd see *consistent* light across the arc--not a hotspot like in your pics.

See the hotspot


See how OEM HIDs are almost consistent throughout. The blue at the cutoff is the reason why OEM lights look bluish from certain angles. This was an OEM retrofit into an Eclipse.



5) 4300k is whitish, 5k has a sky blue tint, 6k purplish, 7k and up even more blue/purplish. Prepare to get pulled over for 6k and up.

Conclusion: unless you retrofit, you will glare other drivers, and not have the same benefits as OEM HIDs in road visbility--regardless of whether or not you properly aimed them. So do the rest of the driving world a favor and stick to Halogens unless you retrofit.