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Old 04-17-2005   #31
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if you are gonna get the civic don't let the dealer fool you into paying for a bunch of extra **** that isn't that much better on the se... just get a plain ol' ex... but then i guess it depends if you plan on actually spending money on aftermarket accessories... i just don't think the se is worth the markup.
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i think the civic's interior is way cheaper then the scion's...

i actually really like the look of the TC, over the RSX/Civic..

the new Si looks Hot, But i like the TC better...
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Not to jack the thread but I am almost the same dillemma: 2004 RSX-S or 2005 Scion TC?
Since when is the Type S in the same class as the Camry?
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For your money, the tc is better. Looks i like the 7th gen better, but when the 8th gen comes out, its going to blow the tc out of the water.

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8th gen>Type S>TC>7thgen
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lol i cant believe people are consideiring scions... i couldnt be stuck in the same car as a thousand other "gen y" girls blaring pop music.... but at least some turbo stuff is being made for them... but still i just laugh my *** off when i see those commercials with the modded scions hehehehehe. RSX is a race proven car, one of the best FWD cars on the market even, so if your going for that in that price range its that or a golf gti 1.8t.
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your saying this all in a civic website?
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i think the civic's interior is way cheaper then the scion's...

i actually really like the look of the TC, over the RSX/Civic..

the new Si looks Hot, But i like the TC better...
3000lb tank + Camry 4cyl engine + 5 speed + open differential
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Thats really ****ing cool...

but i dont really care..

i wanted a quick hot looking car, that would last me a long time, and have great handling....

i like that its heavy, im not a speed dork

i wanted style..

not ****ing cheese...

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civic vs. tc, i would go with tc.
tc vs. rsx-s, hands down rsx-s
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civic vs. tc, i would go with tc.
tc vs. rsx-s, hands down rsx-s

whoever picks a tc over an s is stupid. its no comparison.
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3000lb tank + Camry 4cyl engine + 5 speed + open differential
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hmm, your comparing an si thats not out yet that will be a ~$5000 difference with the tC?
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hmm, your comparing an si thats not out yet that will be a ~$5000 difference with the tC?
No, I was responding to a comparison that someone else made.
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i wanted ... great handling ...

i like that its heavy
Uh, wow.
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i think people forget that the current si and rsx are 3000lb+. I bet even with 8th gen si will be 3000+lbs if you add all the safety features that its going to come with. A TC would be comparable to an si but cheaper, yes the si is still faster but its also 3k cheaper. Price to performance ratio wise the TC blows the ex and si out of the water.

I dont understand why people think the camry engine is crap?!?! The performance potential of that engine is a lot higher then our d17's. The camry engine is probably more reliable then our civics and there not plagued with dying out tranniess like our d17's are. My ' 96 camry went 190k before i traded her in for my 04 civic. Both the tranny and engine were still strong.

the only thing i dont like about the tc is its looks and gas mileage. I dont understand how a camry that weights 200lbs more then the TC gets better mileage with the same engine...lol.
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i think people forget that the current si and rsx are 3000lb+. I bet even with 8th gen si will be 3000+lbs if you add all the safety features that its going to come with. A TC would be comparable to an si but cheaper, yes the si is still faster but its also 3k cheaper. Price to performance ratio wise the TC blows the ex and si out of the water. .
the current si and rsx are just under 2800lbs. The TC also has a lot of weight up top with that glass roof, not good for performance, but it does look cool.

I think the TC is a great deal for 16k (that's msrp, I don't know what they're actually selling for), and I think you'd be nuts not to get the factory installed supercharger.
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the only thing i dont like about the tc is its looks and gas mileage. I dont understand how a camry that weights 200lbs more then the TC gets better mileage with the same engine...lol.

the gearing is more aggresive then the camry, more performance oriented.
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the current si and rsx are just under 2800lbs. The TC also has a lot of weight up top with that glass roof, not good for performance, but it does look cool.

I think the TC is a great deal for 16k (that's msrp, I don't know what they're actually selling for), and I think you'd be nuts not to get the factory installed supercharger.

i sit corrected.
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the current si and rsx are just under 2800lbs. The TC also has a lot of weight up top with that glass roof, not good for performance, but it does look cool.

I think the TC is a great deal for 16k (that's msrp, I don't know what they're actually selling for), and I think you'd be nuts not to get the factory installed supercharger.
i bought the ex se and i love it. the only reason i didnt get the TC (and i would have had the factory supercharger installed) is that it is 2 door and we are starting a family soon. on an aside, when the heck are there going to be turbos for the 05 civics? (point me in that direction if you know)
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I'd probably get the scion, probably because I have a civic now and the scion would be something new...
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i bought the ex se and i love it. the only reason i didnt get the TC (and i would have had the factory supercharger installed) is that it is 2 door and we are starting a family soon. on an aside, when the heck are there going to be turbos for the 05 civics? (point me in that direction if you know)
the ex is a great car. I almost bought one, but I went for the si, mostly because of the interior and I love hatches.

The TC wasn't out yet when I got my car, so I've never actually driven one, but it sure is nice looking. I'd check it out for my next car except that I want AWD for snowboarding (wrx here I come).

I don't know anything about turbos for the '05.

Congrats on the family... I'll stick to dogs.
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yeah, tc factory supercharged definately. Im selling my vic/turbo and everything. Just get a car thats faster and you dont have to waste all the money on to make faster cuz its gonna be a slow POS and youll be broke as hell doing nothing but sitting home having a boring life but a fast car that you wont be able to drive cuz youll have no money for gas and it will drive you nuts and damn. hehe. sorry. Just get the scion over a vic.
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after my Si, ill move on to the tC. ill keep it plain on the outside with just a drop.....and then i wanna boost it. im waiting for toyota to release the supercharger for it (brings it up to 200hp) and ill see how it does and maybe when i buy one it will have the blower on it already....depending on how they hold up over the next yr-yr and a half

so, if you didnt already know, id buy the tC over the civic....even tho ive been die=hard honda
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after my Si, ill move on to the tC. ill keep it plain on the outside with just a drop.....and then i wanna boost it. im waiting for toyota to release the supercharger for it (brings it up to 200hp) and ill see how it does and maybe when i buy one it will have the blower on it already....depending on how they hold up over the next yr-yr and a half

so, if you didnt already know, id buy the tC over the civic....even tho ive been die=hard honda
meh, i would personally turbocharge it.



and the dude already bought the ex se, so IBTL
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meh, i would personally turbocharge it.



and the dude already bought the ex se, so IBTL
im not a big turbo fan....
supercharger = more efficient, less maintenance, factory installed with a 5 yr warrenty from Scion.
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Do you people seriously think Toyota is still going to release a factory supercharger?
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honestly, if there were scions in Canada, I'd pick a tC over a civic any day. So i'd say go with a tC.
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[QUOTE=watermelonman]Do you people seriously think Toyota is still going to release a factory supercharger?[/QUO

its deff coming out, Trust me, Just been delayed alot

it will be out before the new SI comes out....

and its gonna be about another 3600$

and be 205-215hp

i kinda know this guy,

But i dont believe anything till the press info is leaked..
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