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Old Jul 10, 2003
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The Truth (Mufflers)

When I first got my new muffler and axleback piping put on I was all hype. I just stared at it waiting to hear what it sounded like. The guy who installed it jumped in my ride and reved it a few times... My face dropped. I could barely hear it! I don't know what happened.. All my friends have exhausts and stuff but they have had them much longer than me and I didnt hear them when they were first installed. They all have different sounds (high pitch, low pitch, good, bad) even the ones on the same model cars sound different. People tell me all kinds of stories about how they spray water into their mufflers to make it sound louder or better pitched and then some people tell me they rev up all the time to get it worn in. Point is.. Is there a way to control the sound quality.. How do you make your exhaust system louder.. or better pitched..
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buy the right exhaust....alot of products are quieter than others...just let it break it, you will be happy with it.
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just a muffler or cat-back???

mufflers are just rice
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I didn't want to be "Rice", but I also am only 18 and am paying the notes and insurance on the ride so I opted for an axle-back piping. I plan to finish the other half when I get my headers. (Should I get honda headers or wait for my warranty to run out?)
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honda headers??? you mean stock or the dc headers some dealerships sell you for a arm and a leg and a few other body parts. honestly you will be lucky to get 10 hp out of a full i/h/e our cars dont respond well to mods. save your money if you want your civic to have any kind of speed your going to have to bust out with a k20 or turbo and even with that your barely breaking 14's
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what kinda axle back is it.. I'll buy it off you. I hate the sound of my exhaust alll I want it the look so that it fits the hole in my kit.
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Indeed. . .the RIGHT exhaust makes all the difference.

From what I've heard:

Magnaflow - Quiet and subtle
DC TSC - Throaty, but LOUD at higher RPMs (I have this, and highly recommend)
Greedy Evo - Fart cannish but good flow

Other brands I don't even consider for myself. But there are brands that are loud, if that's what you really want.

NOTE: A cold air intake will make a HUGE difference in the note of your exhaust. If you don't have one, get one. Even a short-ram intake will make a big difference in the note of your exhaust.

Lastly, a good header will also augment your exhaust note. I JUST installed my DC stanless header about two weeks ago. With my Injen CAI and DC TSC it made a difference. At WOT my exhaust is louder than it used to be. . .at idle and lower RPMs it didn't change much, if at all.

Remember, your exhaust will always be louder when you're putting a load on the engine, too. Mine's the loudest right after I rev up and shift into second gear. . . . good torque load on the engine does wonders for hearing your own exhuast.
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Originally posted by sadboy916
honda headers??? you mean stock or the dc headers some dealerships sell you for a arm and a leg and a few other body parts. honestly you will be lucky to get 10 hp out of a full i/h/e our cars dont respond well to mods. save your money if you want your civic to have any kind of speed your going to have to bust out with a k20 or turbo and even with that your barely breaking 14's
Really depends on the combination. Even before I capped things off with the header, I was laying-down just under 116 at the wheels. Every car is a little different, too. . . granted. But when a bunch of us ran dyno tests of our cars, different combos DID produce different results.

But you're right. . . don't expect much out of the mods in the way of performance. . . just expect that you'll be putting some pretty metal on your car and it'll make it sound nicer. lol
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i have a injen intake, hp header, high flow cat, and cutom medrel bent piping, with a sebring exhaust, and my ish is freaking loud... you can hear me 1 mile away(litterally). and i would be at only 1,500 rpm
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I do have an intake and It did make a difference.. But really the only time I like the sound is at full throttle when i am flooring it in 3rd and 4th gears. I mean How can I make it sound good at idle or just sitting there revvvving for the bystanders?? I mean I obviously cant floor it through a parking lot in 3rd and 4th gear... (still not answered does age of the exhaust have anything to do with sound or crazy things like spraying watter into your muffler) (I think the water in the muffler is bogus) (and bad for your car)
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Trust me. . . our engines can't be that loud at idle. Not enough displacement. Unless you run without an exhaust, altogether.

At lower RPMs. . . again, lack of power usually equals lack of noise.
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Originally posted by Yukonart
Trust me. . . our engines can't be that loud at idle. Not enough displacement. Unless you run without an exhaust, altogether.

At lower RPMs. . . again, lack of power usually equals lack of noise.

Agreed....you are just gonna have to deal with it not being loud at idle...it just can't be.
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Just let your muffler break in a little bit. Let the padding inside melt off then see if you like the note or not.
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my magnaflow is not subtle. believe me, when i come by i turn heads. i rev my engine sometimes just to see who will look. but it is quieter than regular exhausts but the tone is oh so good.
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Originally posted by Tshroom
I didn't want to be "Rice", but I also am only 18 and am paying the notes and insurance on the ride so I opted for an axle-back piping. I plan to finish the other half when I get my headers. (Should I get honda headers or wait for my warranty to run out?)
honda headers? never heard that of that one. for one thing its just one header. so no pluralization is needed. if youre going to get a header get HP racing or kamikaze. if you want to be legal then dont get anything because w/ the DC header you lose horsepower.
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Agreed....you are just gonna have to deal with it not being loud at idle...it just can't be.
Kinda off topic but that quote reminds me a while back when cops blocked me and 30 cars into a street and i had my silencer on and its waz ideling and the cop told me that she heard it 2 cars ahead of me... i have 2" piping and the exhaust and when i have my silncer on its so quite..thing is she told me after she walked around my car to look for something to get me with..i fought the ticket in court and won i showed her
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the dealer said I could get honda brand header instead of my normal exhaust manifold. Honda has a performance tuning website with performance parts you can put on your ride without voiding the warranty.
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what kind of axel back did u get
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I dunno. . . . didn't know Honda made real performance parts for our cars. Sis and S2000s maybe. . .
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I think if it was loud at idle, it'll sound like crap at WOT.
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Here is my Tanabe system sound clips. It sounds great. FUll stainlees steel piping and muffler cat-back

Tanabe R Spec c/o FlyRiceRacer02 - Flyby
Tanabe R Spec c/o FlyRiceRacer02 - Center/Rear
Tanabe R Spec c/o FlyRiceRacer02 - Side
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i also have an axle back......the reason whyits so quiet is b/c u still have the stock resonator in..........if u take it out it will be 10x louder
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Originally posted by Tshroom
the dealer said I could get honda brand header instead of my normal exhaust manifold. Honda has a performance tuning website with performance parts you can put on your ride without voiding the warranty.
Eh???

Go get this website from your dealer please. I'd buy some Honda performance parts.

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just go with a hp header, and high flow cat with some good piping... with no resonators... your ish will be really loud...

trust me, when you put on your header... it will make your car really loud and deep
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I think you'll get that rumbling noise at idle if you were to switch out your cam(s). Let me know if I am wrong guys but I don't think I am.
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if you want to be legal then dont get anything because w/ the DC header you lose horsepower.
The DC header will make you loss power???
How much?
Was this Dyno proven
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this is why i dont like the import scene LOUD cars with no power wtf?
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thats only what ive heard, you lose .5 horses
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Originally posted by sadboy916
this is why i dont like the import scene LOUD cars with no power wtf?
Then please, go to another forum.

This is what I hate about the domestic scene.....redneck drivers, thinking their redneck cars are the shiz.

Wanna stereotype us? We can do the same thing back to you.
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Originally posted by R3DL1N3
my magnaflow is not subtle. believe me, when i come by i turn heads. i rev my engine sometimes just to see who will look.
cough...gag...choke...HAHAHAHAH...sad
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