question about suspension on 2dr coupes
question about suspension on 2dr coupes
do we have independent rear wheel suspension or something like that? my friend keeps babbling about me having it because he says when i yank my E-brake and spin around he thinks it looks different or something than when he does his. someone tell me some i can give him a strait answer
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independent: wishbone. all four corners.[hr]
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independent: wishbone. all four corners.[hr]
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Again plead my ignorance, but Honda clearly advertised the 7th gen as wishbone in the rear and McPhearson up front. Previous gens were wishbone front and rear.[hr]
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independent: wishbone. all four corners.[hr]
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independent: wishbone. all four corners.[hr]
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Rep Power: 419 BTW, independent suspension basically means that each wheel can more up and down independently from the other wheels. A sway bar makes our independent suspension more dependent. LOL Maybe your friend was referring to that fact? [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG]
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Rep Power: 305 On our cars, we have independant suspension on all four wheels.
The opposite would be using a solid rear axle, such as on a truck. And yes, we have McPherson struts up front and wishbone suspension in the rear. The best setup is a double wishbone suspension, as in the 6th generation cars. Ours use a strut system to save space, as they are more compact. The advantage is that an independant suspension allows the wheels to stay parallel and keep more of the tire's contact surface on the ground.
A sway bar does not make a suspension dependant. The wheels still stay parallel, though the sway bar keeps the car more level by using the forces of the other shock to level everything out.
The opposite would be using a solid rear axle, such as on a truck. And yes, we have McPherson struts up front and wishbone suspension in the rear. The best setup is a double wishbone suspension, as in the 6th generation cars. Ours use a strut system to save space, as they are more compact. The advantage is that an independant suspension allows the wheels to stay parallel and keep more of the tire's contact surface on the ground.
A sway bar does not make a suspension dependant. The wheels still stay parallel, though the sway bar keeps the car more level by using the forces of the other shock to level everything out.
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On our cars, we have independant suspension on all four wheels.
The opposite would be using a solid rear axle, such as on a truck. And yes, we have McPherson struts up front and wishbone suspension in the rear. The best setup is a double wishbone suspension, as in the 6th generation cars. Ours use a strut system to save space, as they are more compact. The advantage is that an independant suspension allows the wheels to stay parallel and keep more of the tire's contact surface on the ground.
A sway bar does not make a suspension dependant. The wheels still stay parallel, though the sway bar keeps the car more level by using the forces of the other shock to level everything out.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: rickinthescv
On our cars, we have independant suspension on all four wheels.
The opposite would be using a solid rear axle, such as on a truck. And yes, we have McPherson struts up front and wishbone suspension in the rear. The best setup is a double wishbone suspension, as in the 6th generation cars. Ours use a strut system to save space, as they are more compact. The advantage is that an independant suspension allows the wheels to stay parallel and keep more of the tire's contact surface on the ground.
A sway bar does not make a suspension dependant. The wheels still stay parallel, though the sway bar keeps the car more level by using the forces of the other shock to level everything out.[hr]
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well said [hr]
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On our cars, we have independant suspension on all four wheels.
The opposite would be using a solid rear axle, such as on a truck. And yes, we have McPherson struts up front and wishbone suspension in the rear. The best setup is a double wishbone suspension, as in the 6th generation cars. Ours use a strut system to save space, as they are more compact. The advantage is that an independant suspension allows the wheels to stay parallel and keep more of the tire's contact surface on the ground.
A sway bar does not make a suspension dependant. The wheels still stay parallel, though the sway bar keeps the car more level by using the forces of the other shock to level everything out.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: rickinthescv
On our cars, we have independant suspension on all four wheels.
The opposite would be using a solid rear axle, such as on a truck. And yes, we have McPherson struts up front and wishbone suspension in the rear. The best setup is a double wishbone suspension, as in the 6th generation cars. Ours use a strut system to save space, as they are more compact. The advantage is that an independant suspension allows the wheels to stay parallel and keep more of the tire's contact surface on the ground.
A sway bar does not make a suspension dependant. The wheels still stay parallel, though the sway bar keeps the car more level by using the forces of the other shock to level everything out.[hr]
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double wishbone isn't always the best. true mcpherson strut is a pain in the *** to modify cause of the steering arm but truth is, its probably the best in suspension. even m3's uses mcpherson struts..
. i can always learn more from you..double wishbone isn't always the best. true mcpherson strut is a pain in the *** to modify cause of the steering arm but truth is, its probably the best in suspension. even m3's uses mcpherson struts..
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rickinthescv said, "The advantage is that an independant suspension allows the wheels to stay parallel and keep more of the tire's contact surface on the ground."
This is not true. An independent suspension simply means that each wheel move independently from the others. I.E. when one wheel goes up, the other wheels aren't affected at all. A stabilizer bar (AKA sway bar, AKA anti-roll bar) ties a set of wheels together (front or rear) and makes it so that it's less independent since now when one wheel moves up or down the other will do the same to a certain degree.
Anyway, a double wishbown suspension can indeed keep the wheels parrallel to the ground. However, this requires that the pivot points are in the same vertical plane. If they are not, then the wheels will still camber when the car is raised or lowered (or during cornering). The 6th generation Civics have a double wishbone suspension, but the pivot points are not in the same plane. That is why they still sell camber kits for 6th gen civics.
rickinthescv said, "The advantage is that an independant suspension allows the wheels to stay parallel and keep more of the tire's contact surface on the ground."
This is not true. An independent suspension simply means that each wheel move independently from the others. I.E. when one wheel goes up, the other wheels aren't affected at all. A stabilizer bar (AKA sway bar, AKA anti-roll bar) ties a set of wheels together (front or rear) and makes it so that it's less independent since now when one wheel moves up or down the other will do the same to a certain degree.
Anyway, a double wishbown suspension can indeed keep the wheels parrallel to the ground. However, this requires that the pivot points are in the same vertical plane. If they are not, then the wheels will still camber when the car is raised or lowered (or during cornering). The 6th generation Civics have a double wishbone suspension, but the pivot points are not in the same plane. That is why they still sell camber kits for 6th gen civics.
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Just to clear this up:
Independent Suspension
A term used to refer to any type of suspension system that allows each of the two wheels of a given axle to move up and down independently of each other.
MacPherson Strut
A suspension system that consists of a combination coil spring and shock absorber (referred to a Strut) in one compact unit at each wheel. With this "independent" suspension design, road shocks at one wheel are not transferred to the opposite wheel. MacPherson struts use fewer parts, meaning a reduction on weight and fewer elements that could wear out.
Strut
The main support member in a MacPherson suspension system. The strut also serves as the shock absorber.
Also, there are several compact cars these days with a solid rear axle such as Chevy Cavalier, Pontiac Sunfire, Kia Rio, Nissan Sentra, and I'm sure more that I forgot about. Also most mini vans have such a setup too, since most are front wheel drive too.
Just to clear this up:
Independent Suspension
A term used to refer to any type of suspension system that allows each of the two wheels of a given axle to move up and down independently of each other.
MacPherson Strut
A suspension system that consists of a combination coil spring and shock absorber (referred to a Strut) in one compact unit at each wheel. With this "independent" suspension design, road shocks at one wheel are not transferred to the opposite wheel. MacPherson struts use fewer parts, meaning a reduction on weight and fewer elements that could wear out.
Strut
The main support member in a MacPherson suspension system. The strut also serves as the shock absorber.
Also, there are several compact cars these days with a solid rear axle such as Chevy Cavalier, Pontiac Sunfire, Kia Rio, Nissan Sentra, and I'm sure more that I forgot about. Also most mini vans have such a setup too, since most are front wheel drive too.
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