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Old Nov 24, 2002
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H & R without shocks chamber kit

I am planning to get the stage one H & R spring for my 2k2 coupe. Correct me if I am wrong. The stage one spring will lower ~ 1.3"? Do you guys think it is ok not to get shocks and chamber kit just such a low drop? I want to go lower but don't have money right now for the everything so....[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-frown.gif[/IMG]
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Hmm..I dont think u need camber kit or aftermarket shocks. I hava H&R on my 2k1 sedan for a while now and everything's ok. Tell u what, just buy the springs first and from there u'll know if u need any of those 2 items. The age of the stock shocks may be based on how u drive your car and also manufacturing quality. The H&R doesn't lower that much and I think It's ok to be coupled with stock shocks.

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i have the same springs on a coupe and the rear camber was off 3 degrees,i had to buy the SPC kit to correct the settin,i left the front alone cus they r within the spec
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Old Nov 25, 2002
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If you want to go lower for less, go with goldline springs. They have a 1.75" drop at all four wheels. Looks nice and clean and is inexpensive, you will need rear camber kit tho, talk to Rob at tornactive for best prices.
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Old Nov 25, 2002
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I have H&R sport...(1.3)....No camber kit needed....or struts/shocks.......(eventually struts/shocks).....
but yea, anyway...you'll be fine....
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Old Nov 26, 2002
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Got H&R 1.3 drop, chamber kit .................. Looks good ....... kinda bumpy w/ stock .......... But is great ......
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thats odd... i have the exact same springs. i had an aligment done on my car and the rear was off by 1 degree... the front was perfect cuz i had the ingalls camber kit. if you are planning to purchase rimes... currently i have 17x7 +40MM offset wheels wrapped with 215/45/17 tires... no problems whatsoever..
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sedan... eibach.. 1.4 .. needs camber adjustment.. front and rear[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/IMG]
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I have had H&R's for about 6 months now and my camber is off in the front and rear, but more so in the rear. I also have the Koni shocks and I think it rides great, but you should be ok without shocks for now.
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I have some H&R Sport springs that I need to sell. They do drop 1.3 all the way around and with them my car was not far enough out of spec to require a camber kit.
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Old Nov 27, 2002
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I have H&R Sport on my 2K2 coupe and I needed a front camber kit...You can ride on stock shocks, they should be fine for a while!! Unless you drive over a million pot holes every day, then yours might wear a bit quicker...You don't NEED a camber kit, but it is recomended and unless you can afford new tires every year I would go with what the shop recomends...You will most likely not need a rear camber adjustment, most likely none or just the front (the front is the cheapest), but every car is DIFFERENT...My friend, with the same car needed a rear & front camber kit with the same set of springs and I only needed the front...Good luck!!! I'm happy with my H&R's
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Old Nov 28, 2002
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The suspension on the 7th gen is McPhearson struts on the front and if I remember correctly double wishbone on the rear. The design of the McPhearson strut does not allow the front to go far enough out of spec to ever require a camber kit. In other words for the 7th gen you will never need a camber kit for the front. Whoever told you that one was necessary for the front doesn't understand the design of the McPhearson struts. They are designed to adjust accordingly. Also dropping 1.3 inches is not going to throw your rear far enough out of spec to need a camber kit.
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Like I said, EVERY CAR IS DIFFERENT, even from the same maker. There is no guarantee your car will react the same as a fellow 7'th gen board member's car...H&R's promise a 1.3" drop but mine is lower...If you believe what you just said, have fun buying new tires often
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I agree. Mine dropped more than 1.3.
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specv is right about the front...

the camber isnt that bad in the front even with such a low drop.
and i wouldnt even worry about a camber kit with a 1.3" drop. but i guess for paranoid people, its better safe then sorry.
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Old Nov 29, 2002
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MacPhearson strut: a telescopic member incorporating damping with the wheel rigidly attached at its lower end, such that the strut maintains the wheel in the camber direction; the upper end is is fixed to the body and the lower end is located by linkages which pick up the lateral and longitudinal forces.
bumpstop: elastic cushion that softens the impact when suspension travel reaches its limit.
foamy bumpstop: a bumpstop made of a foamed plymer that compresses significantly before preventing further suspension travel, and can enter into normal movement of the suspension.
camber: inclination of a wheel outward with respect to the body.
progressive spring: a spring having a rate that increases with increasing positive deflection
Sorry if that is to technical for you but in other words the front will not go out of camber. And as for the bouncy ride from not cutting the bumpstop it is also possible and likely. Also H&R uses progressive springs which are very unlikely to cause a uncomfortable ride.
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