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Old Aug 16, 2022
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I dug through all of the suspension DIY threads and don't see any for setting up coilovers for lowering and adjusting the camber on the front and rear to where it should be... I'll HAVE to DIY this because no shop in my area will touch an import suspension except to do an alignment in OEM cars... Am I looking in the wrong place? I have an '05 VP Sedan and want to put it on Rev9s with all new HardRace bushings all around to lower it within reason for street and occasional track use. Ground clearance is still a concern - so not slamming or stancing it...
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Re: Lowered Suspension Geometry (No sticky?)

Apologies, Mods - apparently discovered on Honda Tech that even most track teams don't jack with the geometry. I just want to lower the car about 1.5-1.75 with no tire scrub and basically factory camber. I think I answered my own question and if that's the case that the OEM numbers are my target, well I've got the ol' Haynes manual for that...
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Re: Lowered Suspension Geometry (No sticky?)

I set my Teins at the recommended height of -1.8" in the front and -2.0" in the rear. No camber adjustment in the front, the rear has a camber kit to straighten it back up. I autocross and track this car with no issues.
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Re: Lowered Suspension Geometry (No sticky?)

if you have adjustable camber fronts/rear, use -1.5 front, -0.5 rear
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Re: Lowered Suspension Geometry (No sticky?)

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if you have adjustable camber fronts/rear, use -1.5 front, -0.5 rear

I think I have something sagging in the back... Either the insulators, springs, or shocks are worn. I've seen others have this problem with the ES1 - especially with lowered spring kits. Mine are OEM. But then, everything is going to change I think with new bushings. These are likely the originals or the originals have been replaced with off-brand parts house ones that didn't last as long. It was kept in good mechanical shape, though the paint is nerfed and I had to primer some rust. When I when to get it inspected, a guy I met knows the original owner and said he was always doing something to it - so it's been well maintained by the original owner, mechanically. However, I can't tell by looking at the bushings if they are really well made and they're 17 years old or if the originals crapped out and most of them don't look old - except the compliance bushings which have multiple small cracks (both front sides)... So - if I FIX the sagging problem, I will set at your recommendations, correct? Or is it this problem with perfectly good rear parts and I need to set it at the height you recommend to account for the natural butt sag in the ES1?
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Re: Lowered Suspension Geometry (No sticky?)

if you are going to replace bushings, adjusting camber is better done afterwards, or else you would need do alignment twice

rear multi-link suspension change camber a lot across its travel
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