Lower control arm question
Lower control arm question
For starters: I'm using Tein H.Techs with Tokico blues that have been installed for a couple months. Recently I've noticed a creaking sound from the FR strut at low speed while turning. So we pulled the tire to have a check and tighten everything up. Everything was still bolted to spec but we noticed what appears to be some severe wear on my lower control arm.
We pulled the front driver side then and the wear wasn't nearly as bad. I've attached pictures (the passenger side is the first pic) and am looking for any advice. Replacement arms appear to be about $110 from parts.com (#11 I think).
Thoughts?
We pulled the front driver side then and the wear wasn't nearly as bad. I've attached pictures (the passenger side is the first pic) and am looking for any advice. Replacement arms appear to be about $110 from parts.com (#11 I think).
Thoughts?
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Re: Lower control arm question
energy suspensions makes replacement/performance bushings. swapping them out is a bitch though. creaking noises while turning tend to be related to the strut though, like the upper mount and bearing. When the bushings in the lower control arm go, you notice more bump steer, but not really much noise.
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most likely the strut mount bearing. its the only thing i havent replaced and mine has the same problems you described.
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That is NOT severe wear on the bushing. If anything, the other bushing is shittier. Why would that bushing make noise while you are turning? It moves up and down, not around.
There are a few causes
1) The spring bearing up top, which everyone else said.
2) Your ball joint(s).
There are a few causes
1) The spring bearing up top, which everyone else said.
2) Your ball joint(s).
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hey check the other bushing that is foward more twords the bumper, that is the one known to go. i have replaced well over a hundread of them already... and like robbclark1 said check the ball joints they creek if they are shot and also look into the strut top that could definately cause a noise.
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i agree with robb on this. my bushings were torn BAD and the car cornered like crap, but there were no noises. it just sucked for handling at higher speeds.
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Re: Lower control arm question
That is NOT severe wear on the bushing. If anything, the other bushing is shittier. Why would that bushing make noise while you are turning? It moves up and down, not around.
There are a few causes
1) The spring bearing up top, which everyone else said.
2) Your ball joint(s).
There are a few causes
1) The spring bearing up top, which everyone else said.
2) Your ball joint(s).
So I don't think you can completely rule that out. It is correct that the bushing is designed to move up and down, but if it's weak and torn, then there's less restriction of movement.
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Or there could be burrs of metal that are sandwhitched between the top of your tokico mount and your strut tower itself- those can create creeking. Can you also hear this when your in the parking lot and just turn the wheel?
I had a sim issue and pinpointed it to my pillowball mount which needed to be lubed- I covered it in white lithium and it was perfect. Although I must say, before the grease, I did tighten up the three bolts on the strut tower a little more and the creaking became a little quiter.
I had a sim issue and pinpointed it to my pillowball mount which needed to be lubed- I covered it in white lithium and it was perfect. Although I must say, before the grease, I did tighten up the three bolts on the strut tower a little more and the creaking became a little quiter.
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I'll start with trying to tighten up the top mount further. If that doesn't help I'll go through and answer some of the other questions in detail. Thanks everyone!!
Re: Lower control arm question
OK, you guys are the ****. I had to buy a longer 17mm wrench and a 1/2" drive socket with 6mm hex end from MAC to get it tighter. But I bought the tools and was able to tighten everything up further. The noise is gone now. Thanks again.
And just to confirm: the impression I get is I shouldn't be too worried about the original pictures I posted. Is that correct?
Thanks again all.
And just to confirm: the impression I get is I shouldn't be too worried about the original pictures I posted. Is that correct?
Thanks again all.
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i need to try tightening it. i used a small hex wrench and regular wrench but it wouldnt budge.
you should still get the ES bushings installed sometime.
you should still get the ES bushings installed sometime.
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yeah that and bad shocks. like if youre turning and going over a bump, and it feels like the car is sliding for a second or something.
Re: Lower control arm question
this "clunk" noise sounds like if you hit only once a big bell and then it doesn´t do it anymore.
I already checked everything else and it seems to be fine.
so do I need to change the strut mount bearing?
or do I need to grease them? if so, what kind of grease?
thanks.
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Re: Lower control arm question
sorry to ask but I´m having a clunk noise coming from all 4 struts and my lca are new so I´m starting to think the strut mount bearing could be the culprit
this "clunk" noise sounds like if you hit only once a big bell and then it doesn´t do it anymore.
I already checked everything else and it seems to be fine.
so do I need to change the strut mount bearing?
or do I need to grease them? if so, what kind of grease?
thanks.
this "clunk" noise sounds like if you hit only once a big bell and then it doesn´t do it anymore.
I already checked everything else and it seems to be fine.
so do I need to change the strut mount bearing?
or do I need to grease them? if so, what kind of grease?
thanks.
Re: Lower control arm question
hey i just changed my lca and my passengers side went good then when i tried to do my drivers side as i was popping out the ball joint i cracked the bolt for the ball joint. so its saturday night and no parts place is opened so i had an old engine mount bolt laying around same size and threads as the ball joint can i use that and is it safe to drive around like that?? untill monday when i can try to by a ball joint bolt? thanks for any help
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