?!What is causing hard bouncing around turns?!
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?!What is causing hard bouncing around turns?!
Hey whats goin on fellas
my suspension is finally starting to feel "good" again.
the first thing i did was lower it on neuspeed sports. i was riding on BALD *** 215/35/18 tires and stock shocks so that wasnt helping out any.
then i got tokico blues and that helped the ride out tremendously.
yesterday i got some new tires. 215/40/18 BFgoodrich KDWs. These pretty much put the feel of my ride just where i want it. I mean, its not as smooth as stock, but its real damn close.
my question comes from when i am making fast left or right turns. My car feels very bouncy when i am turning at high speeds. I asked this question before - and the answer we came up with was it was my blown shocks - and since ive got the Blues in its way less bouncy in the turns...and i thought getting new tires would get rid of the bounce all together...they did help some...but the bounce is still there.
the whole car doesn't bounce - its just the front outside corner during the turn. so for instance, when turning a hard right the front driver side feels bouncy...when turning left the front passenger side bounces.
any insight on what is happening would be awesome. thanks
notes: when I take a corner at high speeds the front, outside corner of the car bounces hard. fast left turn = bouncy front passenger side. fast right turn = front driver side bounce. what is happening and how do i fix it?
my suspension is finally starting to feel "good" again.
the first thing i did was lower it on neuspeed sports. i was riding on BALD *** 215/35/18 tires and stock shocks so that wasnt helping out any.
then i got tokico blues and that helped the ride out tremendously.
yesterday i got some new tires. 215/40/18 BFgoodrich KDWs. These pretty much put the feel of my ride just where i want it. I mean, its not as smooth as stock, but its real damn close.
my question comes from when i am making fast left or right turns. My car feels very bouncy when i am turning at high speeds. I asked this question before - and the answer we came up with was it was my blown shocks - and since ive got the Blues in its way less bouncy in the turns...and i thought getting new tires would get rid of the bounce all together...they did help some...but the bounce is still there.
the whole car doesn't bounce - its just the front outside corner during the turn. so for instance, when turning a hard right the front driver side feels bouncy...when turning left the front passenger side bounces.
any insight on what is happening would be awesome. thanks
notes: when I take a corner at high speeds the front, outside corner of the car bounces hard. fast left turn = bouncy front passenger side. fast right turn = front driver side bounce. what is happening and how do i fix it?
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yeah..i know its because im making the body lean/roll or however you say it...basically transfering weight...but why doesn't it feel smooth? is it the shocks? they're not strong enough? or could it be fixed with some sort of brace?
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my guess... Since your on 18's you've greatly increased the unsprung weight on the suspenison. with that, you are basically forcing the suspenion to work that much harder, and the added weight actually slows how fast the suspension can react...
alternatly, given that you say its the front ouside thats bumping... there is the possiblility that you are running too little negitive camber, causing the car to corner on the shoulders of the tires rather then the whole contact patch...
alternatly, given that you say its the front ouside thats bumping... there is the possiblility that you are running too little negitive camber, causing the car to corner on the shoulders of the tires rather then the whole contact patch...
I get that bounce too!!!
Im running on stock rims from the ex, 205/50/15 Toyo T1Rs, and Kpsort full coilovers. But I'll only get that bounce if the road is uneven. If its a flat road im fine, but if the road slops from one side peaks in the center then slops down to the otherside I'll get a few nasty bounces and it makes me lose traction a bit. I never figured out why it did that.
Got a guess ZZyzx?
Im running on stock rims from the ex, 205/50/15 Toyo T1Rs, and Kpsort full coilovers. But I'll only get that bounce if the road is uneven. If its a flat road im fine, but if the road slops from one side peaks in the center then slops down to the otherside I'll get a few nasty bounces and it makes me lose traction a bit. I never figured out why it did that.
Got a guess ZZyzx?
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the problem with trying to diagnose things like this is that with out experiancing the event my self... its hard to get a grasp on what exactly is happening....
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I've got 5 bucks on the car being too low and the shocks not being stiff enough and the car bottoms out. Result of the other side is it hyperextends and when it runs out of travel, you get the bump bump bump, because it can't go any farther. How much extra travel did Tokico build in?
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I've got 5 bucks on the car being too low and the shocks not being stiff enough and the car bottoms out. Result of the other side is it hyperextends and when it runs out of travel, you get the bump bump bump, because it can't go any farther. How much extra travel did Tokico build in?
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No. The bumpstops don't do anything when the strut hyper extends. This is yet another reason why Tokico set the 1.5" drop limit recommendation with the shocks. They designed them, they know how far they'll go. Why you guys refuse to believe them and continue to not listen is beyond me.
Originally Posted by Boilermaker1
No. The bumpstops don't do anything when the strut hyper extends. This is yet another reason why Tokico set the 1.5" drop limit recommendation with the shocks. They designed them, they know how far they'll go. Why you guys refuse to believe them and continue to not listen is beyond me.
so then he is just gonna blow his shocks out from being lower then the 1.5 that tokico sets?
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