Suspension Performance Modifications Post Suspension related modification information and/or questions here

strut bar install (NOOB)

Old Aug 26, 2005
  #1  
MajinB's Avatar
Thread Starter
Drunken Master-7thgen Ninja
iTrader: (21)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 7,976
Likes: 0
From: georgia
Rep Power: 336
MajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to behold
strut bar install (NOOB)

ok i have never installed a strut bar before. it came today. it was APC. sorry guys i did not know, i ebayed it. it looks nice. this thing came in a bunch of pieces and i will post pics when i get off work.
i need help on what to put together cause there were no instructions. ok
questions
1. do i use the stock screws to mount this thing onto my car?
2. if yes, do i unscrew one by one and then put the thing on?
help. i will be home later. with pics. thanx

Last edited by MajinB; Dec 7, 2005 at 10:37 PM.
Reply
Old Aug 26, 2005
  #2  
jackburton's Avatar
Registered!!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 1,305
Likes: 0
From: HOCO MARYLAND
Rep Power: 281
jackburton will become famous soon enoughjackburton will become famous soon enough
I am pretty sure you just unbolt the two or three strut nuts, they are one pointed bolts, and depending on what kind of strut bar you have will depend on whether you have to take all three off or only two.
Yeah so to answer your quesiton just unscrew them put the bar on put the nuts back on and your done. Took me like 3-5mins.
You also have to make sure the bar fits right and make sure the mounting points sit flat and flush, i was lucky and did not have to do this.
Reply
Old Aug 26, 2005
  #3  
injencivic's Avatar
Registered!!
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 7,196
Likes: 1
From: East Tennessee-Knoxville
Rep Power: 373
injencivic is a glorious beacon of lightinjencivic is a glorious beacon of lightinjencivic is a glorious beacon of lightinjencivic is a glorious beacon of lightinjencivic is a glorious beacon of light
also, some people(like me) have had to jack up the front end of the car to relieve tension off the strut in order to place the bolts in the holes for the strut bar. Its not a hard install at all....

injen
Reply
Old Aug 26, 2005
  #4  
robbclark1's Avatar
Retired suspension supermod.
Hey! Look At Me!! I'm a Supporting Member!!
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 10,857
Likes: 0
From: Gaithersburg, MD
Rep Power: 412
robbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to behold
Originally Posted by injencivic
also, some people(like me) have had to jack up the front end of the car to relieve tension off the strut in order to place the bolts in the holes for the strut bar. Its not a hard install at all....

injen
If it is apc it is probably 3 pieces. You can make 3 pieces fit without jacking up the car.
Reply
Old Aug 26, 2005
  #5  
ragingSPAM's Avatar
I just burnt my tongue
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 4,990
Likes: 0
From: Chino Hills, CA
Rep Power: 319
ragingSPAM is just really niceragingSPAM is just really niceragingSPAM is just really niceragingSPAM is just really niceragingSPAM is just really nice
yea its easy...just unbolt the three bolts on top of ur struts than put it on and tighten the bolts back on as hard as u can
Reply
Old Aug 26, 2005
  #6  
injencivic's Avatar
Registered!!
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 7,196
Likes: 1
From: East Tennessee-Knoxville
Rep Power: 373
injencivic is a glorious beacon of lightinjencivic is a glorious beacon of lightinjencivic is a glorious beacon of lightinjencivic is a glorious beacon of lightinjencivic is a glorious beacon of light
Originally Posted by robbclark1
If it is apc it is probably 3 pieces. You can make 3 pieces fit without jacking up the car.

i hope it doesnt break in half while driving... I was just stating what i had to do with my neuspeed bar, didnt really read after apc anymore

Injen
Reply
Old Aug 26, 2005
  #7  
Blahman240's Avatar
Touch it... He won't bite, He'll just come at you pretty quick.
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 1,278
Likes: 0
From: Wilkes-Barre, Pa
Rep Power: 0
Blahman240 is on a distinguished road
I was gonna come in this topic and complain about how I hate 3 peice bars, and that they didn't have one for out cars... then I realized... mine is one peice, its neuspeed.

Now I'm gonna bitch about it not being 3 point. I WANT A 3 POINT MOUNT BAR!
Reply
Old Aug 26, 2005
  #8  
MajinB's Avatar
Thread Starter
Drunken Master-7thgen Ninja
iTrader: (21)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 7,976
Likes: 0
From: georgia
Rep Power: 336
MajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to behold
ok here are the pics. the 2 little silver screws are in the end of it. it came disaseembled. so like i said. sorry for the apc part. what can i do? anyways, one of those silver screws goes in clockwise and the other counterclockwise. and then the left and right attachment that goes on the sruts. ok so i know how the attachment is going to take place and where. i think my clutch cylinder was a little in the way so im going to have to adjust it. if i unscrew the 3 bolts won't the whole setup under the car just collapse??? sorry if im asking a dumb q.
any ways here is the pic.

sorry for the hairy feet. i needed an eagle eye shot. and why does it matter if a strut bar is 3 point or one? and do you really think this thing will break under tension?
Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	strut bar.JPG
Views:	829
Size:	30.4 KB
ID:	59050  
Reply
Old Aug 26, 2005
  #9  
Myfaststang's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Rep Power: 0
Myfaststang is an unknown quantity at this point
Why worry about puttin a strut bar on there. my sister polishes my *** every day.


(this post owned by S2000man01)

Last edited by S2000man01; Aug 26, 2005 at 11:12 PM.
Reply
Old Aug 26, 2005
  #10  
MajinB's Avatar
Thread Starter
Drunken Master-7thgen Ninja
iTrader: (21)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 7,976
Likes: 0
From: georgia
Rep Power: 336
MajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to behold
if you mean "these cars" as in civics, then you joined the wrong forum you freakin noob. help or go away. no joke
Reply
Old Aug 26, 2005
  #11  
Myfaststang's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Rep Power: 0
Myfaststang is an unknown quantity at this point
admit it, my mustang is slower than a frozen retard




(this post owned by S2000man01)

Last edited by S2000man01; Aug 26, 2005 at 11:12 PM.
Reply
Old Aug 26, 2005
  #12  
MajinB's Avatar
Thread Starter
Drunken Master-7thgen Ninja
iTrader: (21)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 7,976
Likes: 0
From: georgia
Rep Power: 336
MajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to behold
hey asshat if your not going to help then don't post
Reply
Old Aug 26, 2005
  #13  
MajinB's Avatar
Thread Starter
Drunken Master-7thgen Ninja
iTrader: (21)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 7,976
Likes: 0
From: georgia
Rep Power: 336
MajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to behold
Myfaststang just got

and banned. ok back on topic. i will be doing this sunday night. cause i don't have time between now and then. sleep, college, gf, work, best friend b-day party, sleep, gf, me time to install. this is from now till sunday. any help till then will be greatly appriciatted. thanx guys. and thanx to S2kman for great ownage.
Reply
Old Aug 27, 2005
  #14  
MajinB's Avatar
Thread Starter
Drunken Master-7thgen Ninja
iTrader: (21)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 7,976
Likes: 0
From: georgia
Rep Power: 336
MajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to behold
ok, ran into some probs. i tried for 10 miutes to get one of the screws loosened enough to put the black mounts on. it wouldn't budge at all. i will try WD-40 later this weekened. and now, im also wondering how tight am i supposed to make the connections? i know as tight as i can with the black mounts, but the screws that connect the mounts to the metal bar and the silver ones on the sides of the metal bar. im thinking of doind the jacking up of the car to help me out. how high? just to get it off the ground? don't mean to post ***** this one but its updates. help! thanx
Reply
Old Aug 27, 2005
  #15  
Blahman240's Avatar
Touch it... He won't bite, He'll just come at you pretty quick.
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 1,278
Likes: 0
From: Wilkes-Barre, Pa
Rep Power: 0
Blahman240 is on a distinguished road
The difference between 3 peice and one peice. Is basically the rigidity it gives to the car. The 3 peice allows the bar to flex alot more, thus not doing its job too well. THe one peice is much better at providing all it can.

THe difference between your bar, also the one peice bar, which are two point mounting bars, when compared to the 3 point mounting bar, is that they only mount to the struts obvously (sp?). Where as the 3 point mounting bar mounts to the fire wall as well... providing much more support to the bar, keeping it much more solid, and less flexing, thus allowing the bar to work to the full extent...

Last edited by Blahman240; Aug 27, 2005 at 10:23 AM.
Reply
Old Aug 27, 2005
  #16  
robbclark1's Avatar
Retired suspension supermod.
Hey! Look At Me!! I'm a Supporting Member!!
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 10,857
Likes: 0
From: Gaithersburg, MD
Rep Power: 412
robbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to behold
Originally Posted by Blahman240
The difference between 3 peice and one peice. Is basically the rigidity it gives to the car. The 3 peice allows the bar to flex alot more, thus not doing its job too well. THe one peice is much better at providing all it can.

THe difference between your bar, also the one peice bar, which are two point mounting bars, when compared to the 3 point mounting bar, is that they only mount to the struts obvously (sp?). Where as the 3 point mounting bar mounts to the fire wall as well... providing much more support to the bar, keeping it much more solid, and less flexing, thus allowing the bar to work to the full extent... But perhaps I am just a dumb ***. lol, ignore the last bit... long night.
I was just about to say that 3 point is different than 3 piece. but it seems like you have it covered...
Reply
Old Aug 27, 2005
  #17  
robbclark1's Avatar
Retired suspension supermod.
Hey! Look At Me!! I'm a Supporting Member!!
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 10,857
Likes: 0
From: Gaithersburg, MD
Rep Power: 412
robbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to behold
Originally Posted by MajinB
ok, ran into some probs. i tried for 10 miutes to get one of the screws loosened enough to put the black mounts on. it wouldn't budge at all. i will try WD-40 later this weekened. and now, im also wondering how tight am i supposed to make the connections? i know as tight as i can with the black mounts, but the screws that connect the mounts to the metal bar and the silver ones on the sides of the metal bar. im thinking of doind the jacking up of the car to help me out. how high? just to get it off the ground? don't mean to post ***** this one but its updates. help! thanx
Majin you are making it more difficult than it has to be. Get a 1/2" drive with a 14mm socket. Turn the nuts off the shock tower, put the black piece on, put the nuts back on. Install bar between the black pieces. Jacking the car won't help you undo a nut. It will actually make it worse because the shock will be pulling on the nut more rather than pushing the screw up.
Reply
Old Aug 27, 2005
  #18  
MajinB's Avatar
Thread Starter
Drunken Master-7thgen Ninja
iTrader: (21)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 7,976
Likes: 0
From: georgia
Rep Power: 336
MajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to behold
yeah so i got a half inch ratchet with a 14mm LONG socket. my short one would not fit. so the drivers side wouldn't budge still, till i put all my 140 pounds of weight on it and then it unscrewed. the other two were suprisingly easy, the other side didn't even take any strength. i don't get it. but i put it on and tightened all the stuff up. i ran into an issue when my little clutch fluid cylinder was in the way of the metal rod i was putting on. i move it and installed the bar. i will post pics up tomorrow. was a 10 min job after i finally got the screws. thanx guys!
Reply
Old Aug 27, 2005
  #19  
robbclark1's Avatar
Retired suspension supermod.
Hey! Look At Me!! I'm a Supporting Member!!
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 10,857
Likes: 0
From: Gaithersburg, MD
Rep Power: 412
robbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to behold
Originally Posted by MajinB
yeah so i got a half inch ratchet with a 14mm LONG socket. my short one would not fit. so the drivers side wouldn't budge still, till i put all my 140 pounds of weight on it and then it unscrewed. the other two were suprisingly easy, the other side didn't even take any strength. i don't get it. but i put it on and tightened all the stuff up. i ran into an issue when my little clutch fluid cylinder was in the way of the metal rod i was putting on. i move it and installed the bar. i will post pics up tomorrow. was a 10 min job after i finally got the screws. thanx guys!
good job
Reply
Old Aug 27, 2005
  #20  
MajinB's Avatar
Thread Starter
Drunken Master-7thgen Ninja
iTrader: (21)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 7,976
Likes: 0
From: georgia
Rep Power: 336
MajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to behold
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to robbclark1 again.
sorry man
Reply
Old Aug 27, 2005
  #21  
robbclark1's Avatar
Retired suspension supermod.
Hey! Look At Me!! I'm a Supporting Member!!
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 10,857
Likes: 0
From: Gaithersburg, MD
Rep Power: 412
robbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to behold
Originally Posted by MajinB
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to robbclark1 again.
sorry man
s'all good. As long as you got it on. Next time buy a better strut bar
Reply
Old Aug 28, 2005
  #22  
JCiv03's Avatar
Registered!!
iTrader: (15)
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 2,338
Likes: 0
From: Elk Grove/Sacramento/Davis, California, US
Rep Power: 0
JCiv03 is on a distinguished road
Do you need to relocate anything with a neuspeed strut bar? or DC?
Reply
Old Aug 28, 2005
  #23  
robbclark1's Avatar
Retired suspension supermod.
Hey! Look At Me!! I'm a Supporting Member!!
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 10,857
Likes: 0
From: Gaithersburg, MD
Rep Power: 412
robbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to beholdrobbclark1 is a splendid one to behold
Originally Posted by JCiv03
Do you need to relocate anything with a neuspeed strut bar? or DC?
DC sucks, get neuspeed. Some people say they have to move their clutch res. but I just wiggled mine out of the way.
Reply
Old Aug 28, 2005
  #24  
MajinB's Avatar
Thread Starter
Drunken Master-7thgen Ninja
iTrader: (21)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 7,976
Likes: 0
From: georgia
Rep Power: 336
MajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to behold
i moved mine out of the way. my little resevior
Reply
Old Aug 29, 2005
  #25  
jackburton's Avatar
Registered!!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 1,305
Likes: 0
From: HOCO MARYLAND
Rep Power: 281
jackburton will become famous soon enoughjackburton will become famous soon enough
It depends on which year you have, the resevoir is in different places. My neuspeed bar came with a nut to screw the resavoir out of the way, but that was for earlier models. I just slid myne out of the way.
Reply
Old Aug 29, 2005
  #26  
MajinB's Avatar
Thread Starter
Drunken Master-7thgen Ninja
iTrader: (21)
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 7,976
Likes: 0
From: georgia
Rep Power: 336
MajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to beholdMajinB is a splendid one to behold
ok, here are the strut bar pics installed, the second one shows my resevior stuck between the strut bar and the brake resevior. it don't move so its ok. thanx for the help again.

this thing was rattling until i tightened the hell out of it. its tense now.
heres the resevior
Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	100_0205.JPG
Views:	832
Size:	69.8 KB
ID:	59159   Click image for larger version

Name:	100_0204.JPG
Views:	359
Size:	61.3 KB
ID:	59160  
Reply
Old Aug 29, 2005
  #27  
Blahman240's Avatar
Touch it... He won't bite, He'll just come at you pretty quick.
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 1,278
Likes: 0
From: Wilkes-Barre, Pa
Rep Power: 0
Blahman240 is on a distinguished road
I just bent my little res forward, like the neuspeed strut bar directions recommended.
Reply
Old Sep 3, 2005
  #28  
jackburton's Avatar
Registered!!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 1,305
Likes: 0
From: HOCO MARYLAND
Rep Power: 281
jackburton will become famous soon enoughjackburton will become famous soon enough
Yeah that way the bar is between
Reply
Old Sep 7, 2005
  #29  
anibal's Avatar
Registered!!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 724
Likes: 0
From: Pearland,TX / PR
Rep Power: 0
anibal is an unknown quantity at this point
There's also another hole like 1 inch below it where you can screw the reservoir and the bar will pass over it. That way the reservoir won't contact the bar and cause unnecessary stresses to the plastic cap and will be leveled and look stock.

Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	MVC-791s.JPG
Views:	314
Size:	66.3 KB
ID:	59543  
Reply
Old Sep 7, 2005
  #30  
pinoyjdmr's Avatar
Registered!!
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 184
Likes: 0
From: HONOLULU,HAWAII
Rep Power: 0
pinoyjdmr is an unknown quantity at this point
for the reseivior um acsually you don't have to bent it theres like a second hole litlle bit down and the same bolt will fit and you still have acsess to your reseivior...
Reply

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:51 AM.