Neuspeed Front Lower X-Brace or Tanabe Sustec Under Brace
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Hi! My friend is wondering and I'm just curious, but which bar is better for our cars? The Neuspeed Front Lower X-Brace or Tanabe Sustec Under Brace? The Tanabe also has a 4 point bracing... But it's more like a "H" shape instead of a "X" shape... Would the X-Brace be better and stronger? You can check out the Tanabe here. http://www.tanabe-usa.com/underbrace/ And the Neuspeed here. http://www.neuspeed.com/products/pro...mport&p_id=814
They're both similar in price too... Thanks!
Actually I just found some pics...
Here's the Neuspeed Front Lower X-Brace:
Here's the Tanabe Sustec Under Brace:
But I wonder if the Tanabe Brace would allow you to drain the oil without removing it...
From the looks of it, the Tanabe might be stronger... It actually looks like a "W" shape instead of a "H" shape... But probably won't notice a difference though...
They're both similar in price too... Thanks!
Actually I just found some pics...
Here's the Neuspeed Front Lower X-Brace:
Here's the Tanabe Sustec Under Brace:
But I wonder if the Tanabe Brace would allow you to drain the oil without removing it...
From the looks of it, the Tanabe might be stronger... It actually looks like a "W" shape instead of a "H" shape... But probably won't notice a difference though...
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Rep Power: 357 i always thought that neuspeed is known for its suspension products while tanabe for its performance/engine works.
from the names i would go with the neuspeed but it seems that tanabe in this case is stronger. i remember there was a big rave about the tanabe sustec brace a while back.
from the names i would go with the neuspeed but it seems that tanabe in this case is stronger. i remember there was a big rave about the tanabe sustec brace a while back.
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Rep Power: 344 I was trying to get a Tanabe for a while, but ended up with a wicked deal on an X brace so I got that instead. Honestly I don't think anyone except the hardcore autoXers would notice a difference between the two.
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Rep Power: 0 just looking at the picture it looks like the Tanabe might sit a bit lower. That might be an issue if your very low. My Neuspeed x brace is the lowest point on my car. The front 2 mounting points are ground down a bit from scraping.
On a side note, I miss my front brace. I took it off when I installed my turbo and havent gotten around to putting it back yet. I notice a definite difference in the front end. gotta get that back on there soon
On a side note, I miss my front brace. I took it off when I installed my turbo and havent gotten around to putting it back yet. I notice a definite difference in the front end. gotta get that back on there soon
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Rep Power: 0 Where is the drain plug located around the X-Brace?
I just want something different because most people seem to have the X-Brace.
I just want something different because most people seem to have the X-Brace.
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Rep Power: 0 We have a GB on the X-Brace from Neuspeed:
http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=223595
Neuspeed boasts that their bar will not have to be removed while changing oil.
http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=223595
Neuspeed boasts that their bar will not have to be removed while changing oil.
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Originally Posted by Kyle23
wtf does this do? sorry i dont know much about thing like this..
Increased rigidity, less chassis flex....sounds like improved handling to me.
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Originally Posted by tamazoid
Does anyone know if you can change the oil without taking off the brace for the Tanabe?
I never saw the answer on all the thread I found about this brace!
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Originally Posted by Redviking
So are we able to change the oil with it or not?
I never saw the answer on all the thread I found about this brace!
I never saw the answer on all the thread I found about this brace!
I got my Neuspeed Front Lower X-Brace off http://www.racingworks.com/neuspeed_...er_x_brace.htm for a really good price!
Me and my friend both ordered one off there and we saved so much from combining the shipping! Way cheaper than any groub buy offered here... You just got to email the guy and ask him about it.
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Rep Power: 0 I can tell you one thing, I can't live without mine. I feel in love. I got the x-brace. It tightens it up sooooooooooo much.
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Originally Posted by tamazoid
I know! So I ended getting the X-Brace cause everybody says you can still do it with that...
I got my Neuspeed Front Lower X-Brace off http://www.racingworks.com/neuspeed_...er_x_brace.htm for a really good price!
Me and my friend both ordered one off there and we saved so much from combining the shipping! Way cheaper than any groub buy offered here... You just got to email the guy and ask him about it.
I got my Neuspeed Front Lower X-Brace off http://www.racingworks.com/neuspeed_...er_x_brace.htm for a really good price!
Me and my friend both ordered one off there and we saved so much from combining the shipping! Way cheaper than any groub buy offered here... You just got to email the guy and ask him about it.
yo, i just checked out that site, and i ordered the x-brace for 110+shipping! is that what you got it for? thanks for sharing that link
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Rep Power: 240 damn that racingworks website is the cheapest place i've seen the bar i was gonna order it from inlinefour.com for 180. thanx for the link
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Originally Posted by tamazoid
I know! So I ended getting the X-Brace cause everybody says you can still do it with that...
I got my Neuspeed Front Lower X-Brace off http://www.racingworks.com/neuspeed_...er_x_brace.htm for a really good price!
Me and my friend both ordered one off there and we saved so much from combining the shipping! Way cheaper than any groub buy offered here... You just got to email the guy and ask him about it.
I got my Neuspeed Front Lower X-Brace off http://www.racingworks.com/neuspeed_...er_x_brace.htm for a really good price!
Me and my friend both ordered one off there and we saved so much from combining the shipping! Way cheaper than any groub buy offered here... You just got to email the guy and ask him about it.
I still want to know how is the oil change with the Tanabe brace... There some kind of deal in a local shop!
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Rep Power: 0 Yah... that site is really good I say! Cheers everyone!
Well me and my friend both order one each... So we asked if he could combine the shipping and give a discount... And he was really good about it too! So we both ended up paying about $215 Canadian each... And that was shipped, tax, and custom fees etc... Final Price! So I guess that works out to be like $180 USD each... That's so good compared to dezod's groupbuy... He wanted $180 for the bar and another $49 shipping to Canada. So that's $229 USD plus another $50 Canadian for customs... So we both ended up saving a lot of money!
Well me and my friend both order one each... So we asked if he could combine the shipping and give a discount... And he was really good about it too! So we both ended up paying about $215 Canadian each... And that was shipped, tax, and custom fees etc... Final Price! So I guess that works out to be like $180 USD each... That's so good compared to dezod's groupbuy... He wanted $180 for the bar and another $49 shipping to Canada. So that's $229 USD plus another $50 Canadian for customs... So we both ended up saving a lot of money!
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Originally Posted by Redviking
Ok thanks for the link! I see that you are from canada too. How much is the total cost (X-brace+ shipping + Tax+ custom fee + etc.)?
I still want to know how is the oil change with the Tanabe brace... There some kind of deal in a local shop!
I still want to know how is the oil change with the Tanabe brace... There some kind of deal in a local shop!
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Rep Power: 0 hey tamazoid, just wondering, how long ago did you order the x-brace? cuhz i found in the Special Clearance (or whatever its called) section that they have it for $110 (without shipping). just letting you know, since you helped us out by showing us the link
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Originally Posted by fuzzylogic426
hey tamazoid, just wondering, how long ago did you order the x-brace? cuhz i found in the Special Clearance (or whatever its called) section that they have it for $110 (without shipping). just letting you know, since you helped us out by showing us the link
Well I just recieved it on Monday... Just put it on a few days ago, and it feels great!
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Originally Posted by tamazoid
If you find out about the Tanabe, let me know too! I'm still curious... You know what you should do if they have one in stock. You should ask if you could hold it against the bottom of your car to see if it gets in the way of the drain plug and filter. I guess that's if you can get your car lifted up and stuff...
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If you are talking about comparing "x-braces" you have to be sure to include the D3 double x-brace that is on the market. It mounts to (6) seperate locations and covers over twice the span the Nuespeed & Tanabe brace cover. Not to mention it is constructed of better material. Search around the internet and you will see that there are better X-braces on the market than the Nuespeed and the Tanabe braces! (see attached)
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Rep Power: 0 That looks, structurally speaking, the weakest of the bars mentioned here, at least the Neuspeed has the webbing between the members, that one just looks like 4 bars welded together. But then again, I'm no susp. expert..
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Actually the Double X-Brace is constructed out of 304 1" tubing stainless steel and is tig welded. The Nuespeed x-brace uses mild steel. When you compare the material characteristics, the tensile strength of Stainless Steel is far superior to mild steel! Also by design, the double x-brace design is structurally much more solid than the single brace that is currently mentioned. Besides it will out perform both bars hands down!!
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Originally Posted by dre2600
That looks, structurally speaking, the weakest of the bars mentioned here, at least the Neuspeed has the webbing between the members, that one just looks like 4 bars welded together. But then again, I'm no susp. expert..