just got springs, have a few questions
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just got springs, have a few questions
I just got the eibach prokit on my sedan. The springs are used, but do they still need settling time? I went to measure it and right now there's 2 finger gap in front and only 1 finger gap in back. They are really low for prokit which is okay, but will the front hopefully settle more?
Yes, it's an Acura EL
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All four corners of the car should settle some more, and if pas experience is any indication, your driver's side will sit a tiny bit lower than passenger's side. How long were the springs off the previous car?
Oh and I hear that Eibachs have a tendency to sag ever so slightly in the rear, as they were made for coupes.
Oh and I hear that Eibachs have a tendency to sag ever so slightly in the rear, as they were made for coupes.
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any time you take the load off of a spring it needs time to settle. When you jack the car up, it will need time to settle. When it is on a lift, it will need time to settle. It may not need as much time as before but it will need time to settle. You will sag in the rear slightly. Get some shocks.
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Cool thanks. I'll wait and see then, but I need an alignment asap. Can they make fine adjustments without camber kit, cause there is some camber showing in the rears. Also would alignment shops be able to install this, because the instructions say you need to adjust it right after putting it on.
And yes the ride got worse going over bumps, much more than I thought. This is prolly due to the racing seats too, which made the ride ALOT worse even on stock springs/shocks.
I plan on using the stock shocks for now until I hear more about the d-spec or another adjustable. Tokico blue I think is gonna be way too firm from what I've heard.
All said and done, I don't mind the ride quality that much cause that's only bad going on bumps (which we have alot of here) but the steering response is well worth it. One thing tho, why did it drop so low with just a prokit? And I thought they were the same for sedan and coupe, according to eibach. Oh there's nothing in my trunk except some dynamat and an amp. Maybe 40lbs or something.
And yes the ride got worse going over bumps, much more than I thought. This is prolly due to the racing seats too, which made the ride ALOT worse even on stock springs/shocks.
I plan on using the stock shocks for now until I hear more about the d-spec or another adjustable. Tokico blue I think is gonna be way too firm from what I've heard.
All said and done, I don't mind the ride quality that much cause that's only bad going on bumps (which we have alot of here) but the steering response is well worth it. One thing tho, why did it drop so low with just a prokit? And I thought they were the same for sedan and coupe, according to eibach. Oh there's nothing in my trunk except some dynamat and an amp. Maybe 40lbs or something.
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Eibachs have a million mile warranty against no sagging I believe. Theyre also no suppose to settle any lower, however your rubber isolators will drop you slightly once they settle.
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Hey Nameless, depending which springs you use, expect another 1/2" or so of drop after the initial install. When I installed my H&R's a couple of years ago, the drop left me with a lot of gap front and back, perhaps one finger gap in rear with my Rotas on 205/40/17 Kumhos. Before the rear shocks blew, the same rim/tire combo was tucked in by almost a finger.
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I want to get a full coilover system now so i can adjust the ride height for winter and stuff but I'm wondering if its worth it... Cuz i've heard that spring + new strut combo can be very stiff.. but heard full coilover systems are a little better with the ride quality...
I want to get a full coilover system now so i can adjust the ride height for winter and stuff but I'm wondering if its worth it... Cuz i've heard that spring + new strut combo can be very stiff.. but heard full coilover systems are a little better with the ride quality... Subarus FTW I do NOT miss my civic
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Originally Posted by gearbox
Cool thanks. I'll wait and see then, but I need an alignment asap. Can they make fine adjustments without camber kit, cause there is some camber showing in the rears. Also would alignment shops be able to install this, because the instructions say you need to adjust it right after putting it on.
And yes the ride got worse going over bumps, much more than I thought. This is prolly due to the racing seats too, which made the ride ALOT worse even on stock springs/shocks.
I plan on using the stock shocks for now until I hear more about the d-spec or another adjustable. Tokico blue I think is gonna be way too firm from what I've heard.
All said and done, I don't mind the ride quality that much cause that's only bad going on bumps (which we have alot of here) but the steering response is well worth it. One thing tho, why did it drop so low with just a prokit? And I thought they were the same for sedan and coupe, according to eibach. Oh there's nothing in my trunk except some dynamat and an amp. Maybe 40lbs or something.
And yes the ride got worse going over bumps, much more than I thought. This is prolly due to the racing seats too, which made the ride ALOT worse even on stock springs/shocks.
I plan on using the stock shocks for now until I hear more about the d-spec or another adjustable. Tokico blue I think is gonna be way too firm from what I've heard.
All said and done, I don't mind the ride quality that much cause that's only bad going on bumps (which we have alot of here) but the steering response is well worth it. One thing tho, why did it drop so low with just a prokit? And I thought they were the same for sedan and coupe, according to eibach. Oh there's nothing in my trunk except some dynamat and an amp. Maybe 40lbs or something.
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Originally Posted by Nameless
thanks telly
I want to get a full coilover system now so i can adjust the ride height for winter and stuff but I'm wondering if its worth it... Cuz i've heard that spring + new strut combo can be very stiff.. but heard full coilover systems are a little better with the ride quality...
I want to get a full coilover system now so i can adjust the ride height for winter and stuff but I'm wondering if its worth it... Cuz i've heard that spring + new strut combo can be very stiff.. but heard full coilover systems are a little better with the ride quality... Thread Starter
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Is that on a sedan? The eibach site says same part number, and the car I got my springs off of didn't have any sag. I don't have any extra weight in the back. The dynamat and amp back there balances out with the spare being removed, so it's like stock.
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okay, but it's not settled I guess. Still not a big deal the front being higher is hardly noticable. Kinda shocked how low it went with just the prokit (supposed to be 1 inch?)
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Originally Posted by TeLLy
It'd be hard to generalize saying all spring/shock combos are stiffer than coilovers or vice versa, but my experience has been the opposite of what you just posted. Springs such as H&R and the like are progressive rate but those springs found on coilovers tend to be linear. Don't ask me what the hell this means, I'm not one of the conehunters on this particular forum, but basically MY EXPERIENCE has been that a car riding on progressive rate springs, even with aftermarket shocks, will feel a little less bumpy than full coilovers.
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Wen I raised my car to put the camber kit on, and I put it back down, I noticed it was like an inch higher. I was like, WTF???? I didnt think the camber kit would make it look that much higher, but it settled back down in like 20 minutes. So I would think theyd settle by now if theyve been on a few days. Mine only took a few days to settle when they were brand new. They are goldlines, though.
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Originally Posted by gearbox
Looks fine. Spring companies make springs so the car is "even." If you measure wheel well to ground (on an even surface of course) they should be about the same height. Also, the rear will be slightly lower because of the weight distribution. I don't think your springs are going to settle any more than that. Looks good
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