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My Hayame review
Over all I think they suck, they are not too far off in ride quality from my nuespeed race springs and stock shocks. The installation was fairly easy, had to flip the tie rod.
Had no problems adjusting them except for one rear one. It just would not go as low as the other (before installation). After an hour of twisting and turning the thing I gave up and raised the other on to the same level. Glad I did because my rear is tucked about have of the rubber on the tire. I have about a 1 finger gap in the front. Right now the ride is still ruff like I said above except it does not bang / bottom out like the stock shocks. I know I need a major wheel alignment but the steering is super sensitive now and the car pulls all over the road. I like the height but the front tire rubs a little when turned all the way and did not do that with my race springs. I think I need to raise the front a 1/2 inch and the rear about 1 inch. I also need to figure out the proper way to adjust the pre load. The rear seems a little bouncy, should I increase or decrease the preload?
I hooked up my nitrous for the first time last night and with a 50 shot it was pulling hard to the right.
I think after I raise it a bit, adjust the preload, and get an alignment I will get my moneys worth but right now I will I spent the extra $ on the Tein or b&g.
Had no problems adjusting them except for one rear one. It just would not go as low as the other (before installation). After an hour of twisting and turning the thing I gave up and raised the other on to the same level. Glad I did because my rear is tucked about have of the rubber on the tire. I have about a 1 finger gap in the front. Right now the ride is still ruff like I said above except it does not bang / bottom out like the stock shocks. I know I need a major wheel alignment but the steering is super sensitive now and the car pulls all over the road. I like the height but the front tire rubs a little when turned all the way and did not do that with my race springs. I think I need to raise the front a 1/2 inch and the rear about 1 inch. I also need to figure out the proper way to adjust the pre load. The rear seems a little bouncy, should I increase or decrease the preload?
I hooked up my nitrous for the first time last night and with a 50 shot it was pulling hard to the right.
I think after I raise it a bit, adjust the preload, and get an alignment I will get my moneys worth but right now I will I spent the extra $ on the Tein or b&g.
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Originally Posted by halflife
I know I need a major wheel alignment but the steering is super sensitive now and the car pulls all over the road. I like the height but the front tire rubs a little when turned all the way and did not do that with my race springs. I think I need to raise the front a 1/2 inch and the rear about 1 inch. I also need to figure out the proper way to adjust the pre load. The rear seems a little bouncy, should I increase or decrease the preload?
I think after I raise it a bit, adjust the preload, and get an alignment I will get my moneys worth but right now I will I spent the extra $ on the Tein or b&g.
I think after I raise it a bit, adjust the preload, and get an alignment I will get my moneys worth but right now I will I spent the extra $ on the Tein or b&g.
As for the preload, increase the preload on the rear to reduce the bouncing.
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Over all I think they suck, they are not too far off in ride quality from my nuespeed race springs and stock shocks.
I never had a major steering problem with TEIN after the install. It was still decent to drive and doesnt pull that hard. Unlike the Hayame one that you really need to be careful when you drive it. Mind you, I lowered my car with TEIN on 2" drop and there was no change in steering that I can notice.
I cannot turn the pre-load perches on the rear anymore so I know I am 'supposed' to be at stiffest settings. But I still find this bumpy and too soft.
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Originally Posted by VNlilMAN
Whether its major or not its still always recommened you get an alignment after you touch the suspension especially when changing struts.
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Rep Power: 416 dude its not that badd. I drove like that for 500miles. Even my dad didnt have any problems driving it
also your comparing the $650 hayames to $1100 tein ss(with damper adjust) of course its going to ride better. If I compared my $850 d2 to the hayames i would say they were better too.
also your comparing the $650 hayames to $1100 tein ss(with damper adjust) of course its going to ride better. If I compared my $850 d2 to the hayames i would say they were better too.
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Methinks you guys are expecting a $1000 ride from $650 coilovers. You do get what you pay for, don't expect all sorts of crazy suspension superiority with Hayames on.
That said, I finally got an alignment, and my car runs crazy stiff (and straight). I like my coilovers for the $650 ride height adjustment they are. Maybe next year I'll get something more trackable like D2's, but in the meantime, these are doin me just fine.
That said, I finally got an alignment, and my car runs crazy stiff (and straight). I like my coilovers for the $650 ride height adjustment they are. Maybe next year I'll get something more trackable like D2's, but in the meantime, these are doin me just fine.
Yea TeLLy we already conclude the ride is stiff on the hayame. The good thing about hayame is you can adjust the height easily (only need to loose the third lock to adjust height). Great for winter. But if anyone wants a smooth ride with hayame = not possible.
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Originally Posted by dacivic
Yea TeLLy we already conclude the ride is stiff on the hayame. The good thing about hayame is you can adjust the height easily (only need to loose the third lock to adjust height). Great for winter. But if anyone wants a smooth ride with hayame = not possible.
I don't know of any full coilover systems that are designed to give you a cushy ride. THEY ARE DESIGNED TO BE A PERFORMANCE ENHANCING PRODUCT. If you want a comfy ride get a nice set of aftermarket shocks and some soft springs.
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Originally Posted by TeLLy
Methinks you guys are expecting a $1000 ride from $650 coilovers. You do get what you pay for, don't expect all sorts of crazy suspension superiority with Hayames on.
its like when people go i bought these e-bay coilovers for 75bucks and it rides like ****.
Originally Posted by sheizen
you should have spent the extra money and gotten a full coilover system...dont get hayame, groundcontrol or any of thoese ebay coilovers.
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Rep Power: 0 I did not expect it to drive like a Benz for 650 buck but I thought I would at least get a 650 ride. It feels so close to my 150 race springs. Like I said earlier once I get it adjusted and aligned I am sure it will improve. I just wish I went all out with the Tein, just jumped the gun. I live in NYC so the ride on a stock suspension can be ruff, oh well someone will but them cheap from me eventually on Ebay if I am not impress for what they are after the adjustments.
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Rep Power: 368 IMO it's a $649 ride. The extra dollar was the ease of install. Sorry to be a smartass, lol. Placing a $ value on ride quality is subjective of course. But yeah like UrtbanImport says, full coilovers all tend to be on the stiff (and thus "rough") side. It sounds like you want a soft comfortable ride and as such I would be inclined to say "performance shocks with springs". I'm seeing a few posts on the Tokico Blues....
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Originally Posted by TeLLy
IMO it's a $649 ride. The extra dollar was the ease of install. Sorry to be a smartass, lol. Placing a $ value on ride quality is subjective of course. But yeah like UrtbanImport says, full coilovers all tend to be on the stiff (and thus "rough") side. It sounds like you want a soft comfortable ride and as such I would be inclined to say "performance shocks with springs". I'm seeing a few posts on the Tokico Blues....
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Originally Posted by TeLLy
Methinks you guys are expecting a $1000 ride from $650 coilovers. You do get what you pay for, don't expect all sorts of crazy suspension superiority with Hayames on.
Hayame is 'you get what you pay for' system and 'not hayame best bang for the buck.'
I know hayame doesnt ride like TEIN, because you get what you pay for.
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Rep Power: 416 well if you compare them to coilovers in its category like tein basic, its best bang for buck.
BUT if you want to compare different categories like hayames/tein basic vs D2/tein ss THEN it comes down to you get what you pay for.
BUT if you want to compare different categories like hayames/tein basic vs D2/tein ss THEN it comes down to you get what you pay for.
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