Tein vs. KW vs. H&R

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Apr 18, 2004
  #1  
I did some research and I am leaning away from the Progress coilovers. I had H&R springs before and they were amazing. Highest quality ride with awesome handling. I see that they make full coilovers now so I'm considering those. Should I go with that, KW or Teins?

My price range is 9-1200. I am sponsered through Dezod so that shouldn't be hard to get. I daily drive my car (for now) and plan on a lot of road racing this year. Whatcha think will be best? I am assuming KWs because I know they're extremely durable and have a lot of adjustments. But I dont know much about the quality of Tein. I do know however, that my H&Rs dramatically impressed my and even though the dampening isn't adjustable I'd still consider giving them my business.

Thanks for any input guys.
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Apr 18, 2004
  #2  
I say go with the hayames coilovers, alot of members have them and they say they are awesome.
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Apr 18, 2004
  #3  
Too bad they're on back order for a couple of months lol...
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Apr 18, 2004
  #4  
well, KW's are awesome. great quality, but pricey. H&R's are great too. they have TUV certification which means their quality is amazing pretty much. Teins however, are the only ones to my knowledge to have 16 levels of dampening adjustment, so if you feel like driving a little harder on one day more than the other, you can. just some info for you. hope it helps.
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Apr 18, 2004
  #5  
Thanks man.
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Apr 18, 2004
  #6  
I checked your profile and notice that you yourself have the Teins... How do you like them? Any special maintenence? I remember hearing about the sqeaking once in a while, is that true?

I just dont want to spend more than a grand on something I'll regret. Sorry if this comparison has been brought up before.
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Apr 18, 2004
  #7  
I am going with the kw's. They are stainless steel which prevents against corrosion and they are light as a ****. Helps with your unsprung weight

btw, i've researched myself

stay away from the progress.........they are too stiff
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Apr 19, 2004
  #8  
I have TEIN SS
Had them for about a year and through the winter too...
still rides like i just installed them...I'm satisfied...

But I do get sqeaking in the rear passenger and some popping noises in the front too...
I'm thinking of moving on and trying something new this summer though...
I would like to lower the front end a little more and i cant to that with the Teins......
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Apr 19, 2004
  #9  
If you plan on doing well with track days, you need to be looking at sping rates, not corrosion protection, or whos using what.......

Here goes...

Tein SS: 336 LB/in Front 448 LB/In rear, with externaly adjustible rebound Dampering

KW V2: 350 LB/in Front 500 LB/In Rear, with externaly adjustible rebound dampering

H&R: (Not even sure if they are out yet) Can't find any info



Given that, you can surmise that the SS will give you better ride quality (smoother over bumps) but the KW V2 would probably give you more desierable Handling chariteristics.
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Apr 19, 2004
  #10  
Just get H&R... lol
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Apr 19, 2004
  #11  
get the TEIN FLEX for the ep3, and get the EDFC, with your sponsorship, the total wouldn't run more than 1200, and that set is friggin nice. My friend has a 98 civic, and he has the FLEX with EDFC's, and OMFG, it can be stiff when it wants, and can be soft on bumpy roads with a touch of a button! highly recommended.
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Apr 19, 2004
  #12  
flex with edfc doesn't work without modification...

after shopping around im either doing KWs or the D2s that are on the group buy. Both look promising.
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Apr 19, 2004
  #13  
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Originally posted by Zzyzx
If you plan on doing well with track days, you need to be looking at sping rates, not corrosion protection
I guess you didn't notice where he lives. No sense dumping over a grand on something that will corrode after 1 yr. What you want to do is the same exact thing i will be doing. But like i said b4.........the kw's are your best bet.
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Apr 19, 2004
  #14  
I'll prob be getting the KWs with camber kits and possible sway bars. We shall see. Either way, once i get money for my shortblock I'll be buying it.

For the reference to corrosion... My car will never see another NE storm again...

Im moving to Jupiter, FL most likely this coming Jan. Opening up a performance shop of my own. 7thgen meets all the time haha
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Apr 21, 2004
  #15  
i've got the KW v2 set up

with the ingalls rear camber kit.

with neuspeed upper strut bar and a type S 19mm rear sway bar.

handling is good... tight on corners.

i have it set to 1/4 of a turn from soft on all four.

depending on the road conditions you have in your city..... that ride can feel really bumpy....

im in toronto, canada.. and in certain areas of the city... the roads are bad
even if the road seems to be straight and smooth.... you'll know that it's not when your car keeps bumping over it....

basically.. you'll feel everything on the street.

as for me.. im pretty much used to it.... i just watch out on what streets i go on...

and plus.. im also on 17in. rims.. w/205/45 tires... so with 17inch rims.. im more likely to feel more of the roads (bumpy) ..compared to 16inch or lower rims.

i've only been to a 1/4mile track with it... cant wait till i hit the circuit in May... and some autocross as well.

so if you're planning on driving your parents.. or your kids... expect them to say why it feels so bumpy....
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Apr 21, 2004
  #16  
Dude I have a NEAR IDENTICAL setup lol. Waiting on the KWs for next week. My rsx-s bar is already on, along with my neuspeed front upper. I have 215/40/17 parada spec-2s. I almost matched you perfectly lol.

But yeah I like stiffer suspensions anyway so it's all good. thanks for the input
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Apr 22, 2004
  #17  
Quote:
Originally posted by AznSaint
i've got the KW v2 set up

with the ingalls rear camber kit.

with neuspeed upper strut bar and a type S 19mm rear sway bar.

handling is good... tight on corners.

i have it set to 1/4 of a turn from soft on all four.

depending on the road conditions you have in your city..... that ride can feel really bumpy....

im in toronto, canada.. and in certain areas of the city... the roads are bad
even if the road seems to be straight and smooth.... you'll know that it's not when your car keeps bumping over it....

basically.. you'll feel everything on the street.

as for me.. im pretty much used to it.... i just watch out on what streets i go on...

and plus.. im also on 17in. rims.. w/205/45 tires... so with 17inch rims.. im more likely to feel more of the roads (bumpy) ..compared to 16inch or lower rims.

i've only been to a 1/4mile track with it... cant wait till i hit the circuit in May... and some autocross as well.

so if you're planning on driving your parents.. or your kids... expect them to say why it feels so bumpy....
I have KW V2s, Neuspeed fron Upper Strut Tower and Ingalls Rear as well. I have mine set to neutral. I am used to the stiff ride. I love my KW's. One of the best mods I have made to the car yet. I'd like to definitely second that Toronto has some shitty roads, but nearly as bad as Buffalo, NY.
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Apr 22, 2004
  #18  
I Have Tein SS and the ride is awesome. When the road is smooth the car rides like a dream and it owns the corners. My damper is at 10 (0 beging hardest ride and 16 being softest) and its awesome for daily driving. Even with the damper set at 10 the car holds the road tight at quick turns. I would strongly recommend SS cuz I love those damn things.
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Apr 22, 2004
  #19  
ive asked some people at KW about changing there spring rates but most of the time they tell me people ask them to be higher or that its already with comfort in mind, i keep hearing that the tein ss are more comfortable and so forth and that would make sense with the softer spring rates, they say they can cahnge the spring rates a little but is it worth it?
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Apr 22, 2004
  #20  
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Originally posted by dezod
I have KW V2s, Neuspeed fron Upper Strut Tower and Ingalls Rear as well. I have mine set to neutral. I am used to the stiff ride. I love my KW's. One of the best mods I have made to the car yet. I'd like to definitely second that Toronto has some shitty roads, but nearly as bad as Buffalo, NY.
another thing.. i have my kwv2 lowered as low as it can go...
except for the front... it's about half a turn left from being at the lowest.
so it's another reason why i feel most of the shitty roads we have here in toronto.


when you say you have it set at neutral.. what do you mean by that?
i think we have about 6.5 turns in total on the dampering.. not 100% sure. cant remember off the top of my head.

i'll prolly be installing a rear upper strut bar and a lower tie bar as well.. and maybe an improved (bigger) front sway bar as well.. not sure about that one yet though.

i'll be hitting circuit on May 3rd. cant wait till i really test them out.

i have racing seats.. and when i make tight turns.. im usually moving in my seats. hahaha....
i guess i would have to get me some racing harnesses........ the s h i t part is that racing harnesses are illegal here in toronto.... i believe.

guess i'll see if i'll move out of me seats when im at the track this coming May.




http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...hreadid=149123

link to some recent pics of my ride.
it's in the caneast forum.
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Apr 22, 2004
  #21  
Quote:
Originally posted by AznSaint
another thing.. i have my kwv2 lowered as low as it can go...
except for the front... it's about half a turn left from being at the lowest.
so it's another reason why i feel most of the shitty roads we have here in toronto.


when you say you have it set at neutral.. what do you mean by that?
i think we have about 6.5 turns in total on the dampering.. not 100% sure. cant remember off the top of my head.......

Neutral is what they come out of the box at. I believe we have three full turns to the left or right from there.
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Apr 23, 2004
  #22  
Quote:
Originally posted by dezod
Neutral is what they come out of the box at. I believe we have three full turns to the left or right from there.
oh, aiights. thanks.

maybe it's just in my mind... when about a month or two after i installed it... i went to check my settings again.

it seemed like the *** had moved......
so i turned it back to soft. (counter-clockwise)
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Apr 23, 2004
  #23  
so anyone tein vs. kw for daily driver comfort? is it worth it to try and get custom spring rates on the Kws?
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Apr 23, 2004
  #24  
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Originally posted by runner1738
so anyone tein vs. kw for daily driver comfort? is it worth it to try and get custom spring rates on the Kws?
I'd recommend the Tein if your concerned more with daily ride comfort. KW for performance.
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Apr 23, 2004
  #25  
Damn you people with money. I enjoy a comfortable ride. I'd go the teins on my vic. On my racing car, the kw's would be there.
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Apr 23, 2004
  #26  
does the kw upper mount only work with the kws or will it fit the tein ss?
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Apr 23, 2004
  #27  
oh ya, im running on the KW upper mounts as well.

as for working w/the tein ss... sorry, i dont know about that.
doesnt tein's have their own upper mounts??
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Apr 23, 2004
  #28  
not for the tein ss they just say buy the 01 upper mount
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