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Old Jun 15, 2005
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Pirelli Pzero nero M&S or Kumho Asx

Ive been trying to decide which tires to go with and ive got it down to these two tires. I friend has the Pzero Nero M&S(all season tires) and my other friend recommended the Kumho Asx. I wouldnt mind goin with Pzero nero tires b.c with all the reviews im seeing and seeing that my friend loves em but the only problem is pricing is a bit high. I dont know much on Kumho Asx at all except that the ratings on tirerack is decent. just to let you guys know these tires will not b driven in the snow. this is wat i would like from you guys:

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I have the ASXs... I personally don't care for them. They're fine in dry weather and they run quietly, but they're a little squirly in the rain (especially if its hard rain) and just about useless in the snow. I say give the Pirellis a try. If you're looking for an All Season Performance tire and don't care about how much they are, Bridgestone RE950s are where its at.
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have u ever heard or tried the Bridgestone G009? they have pretty good reviews and about as good as pirellis but alot more expensive. i just dont like RE series they all suck

just looked at the reviews for the 950 and it doesnt seem all that bad

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i would get those Pzero nero my firend has them on his 2000 celica. from the reviews they are good tires in the dry rain and snow. and they are good stablity too, since the price on them is high its worth it i plan on getting some. or you can get some BFgoodrich T/A KDW2s my firend has these on his civic these also gets good stablity control and some good times at the track


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I also would go with the P-zero. (BTW- M&S stands for Mud and Snow) I sell the P0's to my customers for a replacement to the Bridgestone stock tire on an STI. They came highly recomended from about 4/5 customers, and now I stock them. (I work at a Scoobie dealer).

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i guess its time to save up 500 bucks for Pirellis. thanks for your advice guys finally got my mind set on a tire finally
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Old Jun 16, 2005
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i'm running the asx just cuz they were cheap and had a great treadware compared to the es100's and spec-2's i ran before them. don't hold as well as the latter two, but it gets the job done.
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I have them on my car...I think they are great....if it matters to you, they are **** in the snow...on wet and dry they grip extremely good...and they are very very very quiet and comfortable....treadwear is also great...

I say go with them
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wouldnt noe an place that sells em for fairly cheap would u? so far i checked discountires, tirerack, and vulcantire
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The PZero Nero M+S is an excellent tire. I'm running a set right now with 20K miles on them (215-45ZR-17). Very good grip - dry/wet. Never had experience with snow though. It's also very quiet. As good as they are, there is an annoying fault - at least in the first 10K miles. The tires like to following grooves on the road - making the car a bit squirmish/nervous.
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they flex much on hard turns or turns at all? i dropped my car a bit and i do take turns pretty hard and the tires i have right now flex too much its scary.
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Originally Posted by crazyasian
they flex much on hard turns or turns at all? i dropped my car a bit and i do take turns pretty hard and the tires i have right now flex too much its scary.
No. They are very responsive. However, if you hit a sharp bump in mid corner, it does upset the path of the car a bit. I think this is due more to my stock suspension rather than the tires.
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I think you should also consider Michelin Preceda....
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Originally Posted by crazyasian
wouldnt noe an place that sells em for fairly cheap would u? so far i checked discountires, tirerack, and vulcantire
discount tire has the best price great customer service plus they have free shipping right now thats where i got my pirelli from but you should call and find out if they have them in stock. if they have to order them they will take 3 weeks before you get them.
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pirelli or khumo hmm

thats like comparing a florida orange straight off the tree(pirelli) to a peice of **** ****ing orange dead on the supermarket aisle(khumo)

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Originally Posted by Boilermaker1
I have the ASXs... I personally don't care for them. They're fine in dry weather and they run quietly, but they're a little squirly in the rain (especially if its hard rain) and just about useless in the snow. I say give the Pirellis a try. If you're looking for an All Season Performance tire and don't care about how much they are, Bridgestone RE950s are where its at.

i agree. the asx has to much sidewall flex and doesn't handle rain well. try the Pirellis out.
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aite thx guys. hopefully i can get 500 bucks some how.
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I have a set of the pirelli p-zero's and love them. i'm running a 215-45-17. They do feel just a little squirmish under really hard corners,but they do great in the rain. they are horrible in the snow however. (dont even try it)
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ya im not even gonna use these tires ever in the snow. im using the stock tires so i can just beat up on them.
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Originally Posted by Boilermaker1
I have the ASXs... I personally don't care for them. They're fine in dry weather and they run quietly, but they're a little squirly in the rain (especially if its hard rain) and just about useless in the snow. I say give the Pirellis a try. If you're looking for an All Season Performance tire and don't care about how much they are, Bridgestone RE950s are where its at.
im with him. im a bit iffy w/ kumho since the 711 sucked so much. dont know much about the asx, but boilermaker knows his ****.

pirelli are good, but $$$

i would go with the bridgestone RE950 or BFGoodrich traction t/a. i heard both of those are very good tires and not very expencive either...relatively speaking.
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Originally Posted by pbfoot
im with him. im a bit iffy w/ kumho since the 711 sucked so much. dont know much about the asx, but boilermaker knows his ****.

pirelli are good, but $$$

i would go with the bridgestone RE950 or BFGoodrich traction t/a. i heard both of those are very good tires and not very expencive either...relatively speaking.
i have looked into the 950's nd saw that they were more expensive than the Pirellis(about 120 something, pirellis are around 114-119)
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get pirellis pzeronero ms i have 215/35/18 and the ride is great i never thought 35 could feel so smooth they are worth the $$ i had 205/40/17 Kumho on my other wheels and i could feel just about every rock on the road.
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Pirelli Pzero nero have in 215/35/19 and love those tires
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I have Pirelli P-Zero Nero, and I wouldn't trade them for any other tire on the market.
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