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are there any replacement rear drums out there beside OEM's? and what are some good aftermarket brake shoes? thanks

 
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No aftermarket drums to speak of, for Shoes, Porterfield R4-s compound

 
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Zzyzx, where can you get those?

How often do rear drums need to be changed out?

 
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rear drums really dont need to be changed out because only about 20% of braking comes from the rear.

 
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why would you want aftermarket drums and shoes? just curious. Most of your braking power comes from the front (as streetglower just mentioned).

 
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I'm gonna need new brakes soon. . Front and back. . I'm upgrading the front, just thought that while I was at it, I'd upgrade the back too. I figured drums and shoes would be cheaper than doing disc conversion..

 
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having discs in the back would be better, but I say just leave the rear alone. Maybe get some shoes for it though.

 
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I might spring and go for the discs, but I'm not sure yet. .

 
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Disc brakes have more problems, so just keep that in mind. You will definetly stop faster with disc brakes. I guess it depends on your driving habits. If you drive fast then I guess you should get disc brakes.

 
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Thats disputible as the Si and Ex have the same 60-0 braking distances (approx, within 5-10 Ft)

The big advantage of Disc over drum on the back is better thermal properties. as in Discs stay cooler longer and when they do over heat they recover quicker. So I have to ask, are you overheating your brakes (Brake fade???) if not, then drums are fine. Me, I pound the crap out of my brakes when I do Mt. runs, and so far no fade to be detected. And I've tried. Damn I love my Porterfields

 
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ZZyzx, how much improvement for the poterfields over aem pads (for autox), last season i have aem(still using), and i feel braking is not enough, and is it better to disasble abs, my abs is on every corner entry, thanks

 
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The porterfields will have a Higher initial bite, so they would probably be better. as far as the ABS Vs no ABS..... pro: stops you from flat spotting your tires. Con. lowers your threashold braking ability.....

If you are good at threashold braking (Braking to the point where any more pressure would lock the tires) then running with out ABS would probably be best. If you arent, then running with ABS untill you are will save you $$$ in new tires

Try to get your braking to the point that you can brake hard enough to stop but just under the ABS kick in point. also, if you are hitting the ABS on evey corner, then you may be pouncing on the brakes to fast, or to late. Smoothness is the key for engaging and disengaging the brakes, but being smooth doenst mean being slow.

 
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thanks, the abs usually come on for a split second when i enter a corner, my threashold braking is alot better now than last season, but only on the street, having try it in solo2, maybe i'll try disabling the abs to see how it go

thanks again!

 
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why dont you goto www.tirerack.com they have replacement rear brakes for $15!!!!!

 
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im getting rear's replaced and fronts replaced with EBC green stuff...my car has 25k on it and the brakes are alomost completly gone!

 
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EBC sucks! They wil not last long at all.

 
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weird whenever i read about EBC on this site people love em.

 
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From my experience they don't last long at all. Maybe they are built better now-a-days.

 
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bobbyd has a point. But its not about quality. Brakes are a wear part just like Tires. and also just like tires the best ones (the ones with the higher friction levels) will wear quicker. So They may not last as long as other pads but they perform Much better. If you want pads to last a long time go pick up some Life time warrenty ones a Pepboys.

Just like my race tires (Falken Azenis) they may only last 10-15,000 miles but they Grip a whole hell of a lot better then my All seasons that will last 30,000+

Get the point?