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Old Jul 23, 2003
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Who wants 4 pot front brakes?

... ok.. now what if I told you they'll fit under 15's?Go HERE

The kit is for EP3s, but since all the front brake parts are identical right down to the part numbers, I don't see why it won't fit the coupes and sedans.

Now... here's my big Solo II disclamer: If you want your car to remain eligible for Street Touring classes (thats STS or STX) or Stock class (HS), then you cannot buy these. It's against the rules to change the calipers or the size of the rotor. I think you'll find your way into SM, I don't know what the provisions for big brakes are in the SP classes.
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Damn STS rules.........
17.6. BRAKES
Cross drilled or slotted brake rotorsare permitted, same size and type as standard.
Alternate DOT approved flexible brake lines.
Air ducts may be fitted to the brakes, provided that they extend in a forward direction only, and that no changes are made in the body/structure for their use. They may serve no other purpose.


I think different rotors or calipers bump you initaly in to Street Prepaired (SP).
14.6 Brakes
Any brake line, single or dual master cylinder, vacuum brake booster, brake proportioning valves may be used. This does not allow multiple separate cylinders, but does allow for any single, dual-circuit cylinder. "Safety breakers" and units such as the "Brake Guard System" are permitted. ABS braking systems may be disabled, but not removed; brake boosters may be removed or added. Air ducts may be fitted to the brakes, provided that they extend in a forward direction only, and that no changes are made in the body/structure for their use. They may serve no other purpose. Backing plates and dirt shields may be modified or removed.



the EX and probably the HX would end up here (Vtec)
DSP Civic VTEC, SOHC and DOHC ('96+)

wild the LX and DX would end up
FSP Civic ('96+) NOC

or I could be wrong and we all fall under the NOC (Not other wise Classified) and every one would end up in FSP.


Street modifyed is a step past SP, by allowing engine swaps (Engine must be from the same manufacturer as the body )
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i want some 13 inch brakes under some 16 inch rotors
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It's about time.
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It was earlier questioned if the Spoon calipers would fit our cars, yet no reply was made.

So I am going to see if anyone will pick up that question here.
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i got the aem 14" rotors under 17''s would they bolt up?
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Alright, here's my 2 cents on the aftermarket braking systems...

I work for a company that designs OEM braking systems, and I'm going to tell you to be careful and do your homework when getting an aftermarket system, especially for an EX or Si (with ABS)

I would guess the new rotors shouldn't cause much of a problem, but the new calipers might. If the new calipers have more area being moved (total piston area) then of course they would be able to apply more force to the rotor, helping to slow the car down quicker. Force = pressure * applied area (Hence performace brakes) However, if they have more area being moved, then they also have more fluid to displace to do so. This greater amount of fluid being displaced could mess with the ABS unit. I personally have never worked on ABS units, so I'm not anywhere near an expert, but I do know that ABS systems are designed and tuned to a certain volume of fluid being displaced for a brake apply. (again volume is a function of total piston area)

I would guess that most companys have done their homework when designing these systems, but it may be worth while to double-check...
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Also, just like they said in the EP forum, just upgrading the fronts could throw the brake balance of the car off. Most vehicles have a prop (proportioning) valve somewhere downstream of the master cylinder to control pressure distribution. Perhaps a new prop valve would be needed. (might even be included in the aftermarket brake kit...)
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