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Hey I have a big question, I was driving and my battery light came on. So the alternator belt came off. Got to replacing it when I got home and noticed the harmonic balancer was loose. Got another one from parts store, got it off and noticed the splines on nub of the crank shaft was a little worn and on the balancer completely worn.
I replaced it and put the keyway in and torque to 130lbs. And the car started but ran rough, I cut it off, and then tried to crank again.
Now it won’t crank at all but will turn over.

Did I just throw the timing off ? Hopefully that’s all, or did I just ruin my motor ?

 
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What codes are you getting? If you can’t see codes, check your alternator bolts to see if they’re tight. You may have shorted the ecu. You shouldn’t have done anything that would affect the timing.

 
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The check engine light is on but i thought it was just the sensor.
I don’t have a scanner and now it won’t crank in my driveway.
the alternator bolt will make it not run if it isn’t tighten properly?

I guess I can buy a scanner and see what codes it is throwing

 
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You can get a Wi-Fi or Bluetooth dongle on Amazon for like $20. Paired with the $5 Torque app you are able to read and clear engine faults.

Did the crankshaft position sensor get damaged or unplugged?

 
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What is a dongle ??

and I’m not sure that’s gonna be the first thing i check in the morning. I’m at work until 7am.

 
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OBDII reader that connects to your phone

also, car parts stores reads them for free if they are OBDII

 
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Car won’t crank and is in my driveway so I can’t get it to a parts store.
I may order one of these off of Amazon to see what codes it is throwing.

 
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WIFI models did mess up my phone connection (S10), so i chose a bluetooth
i preferred to get a mid-point price one. Not too cheap, not too pricey (Reason I say this: there are tons of offerings)

 
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The $33 I see connects through an app and not WiFi to an iPhone, thinking on that one.

 
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The $33 I see on Amazon connects through an app you download.
I may just get that one. Since I have an iphone

 
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I see a $33 one that connects through an app. I may gettin but of course I won’t get it until Thursday.

 
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They all connect through an app...
I use torque pro, it's was $5

 
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Thank you, first thing I’m gonna try in the morning is line the harmonic balancer up with the v, and take the top of the timing cover off to see if it says up and the lines match up with the block.

if that doesn’t fix it then I’m gonna order the reader and see what codes are thrown.
it’s gonna be difficult decision if I need a new motor or just sell it as is needing a motor.

 
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Sorry, define what is your understanding of crank and turn over?
Confused...both can be understood as the engine spins

Alternator bolts loose will make voltage unsteady, which tends to fry ECU's in 7th gen cars. [this is just a guess items, don't consider it's fried until you test other items first]. The harmonic balancer could act up as loose alternator bolts, so the possibility still exists.

 
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The motor will turn over and only catch like it’s about to crank every so often. Like it’s out of time or something.
weird thing is before I took off the harmonic balancer it ran perfect.
Im gonna check the tdc tomorrow morning and tighten up the alternator bolts and turn it over.
hopefully it cranks and runs like it did before.

that would make my day.

 
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Okay, I understand now. “Turn over” and “crank” mean the same thing. It could be your crank position sensor isn’t plugged in properly. Give it some gas when cranking next time.

 
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I will post results of what interventions I do tomorrow and hopefully it’ll get it fixed and back on the road.

 
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when the engine runs without you holding the key, it is called "engine starts" or "fires up".
just realized, but you posted on 6th gen. Assuming you have a 6th gen car, the ECU frying is common on the 7th gen, not 6th gen.

 
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6th gen is from 96-00 right ?

 
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Yes.

 
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It’s a 1999, so yes it’s a 6th gen.

 
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while you wait for the OBD reader, retrace work done, wiggle the wiring to see if you did not knock any sensor/wiring out of position. Crankshaft position sensor, etc

 
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I will check connections around the alternator, ac, and power steering. & of course the balancer.
That’s the only work I’ve done.
thank you for recommending

 
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So I checked the connections, everything seems connected good.
I took the top of the timing cover off and when the marks are level with the block & the up is in the upward position the harmonic balancer is not lined up with the V on the block.
it’s off probably 3inches.

how do I fix this to where the markings on the harmonic balancer matchup to the V on the block along with the timing wheel marks and up??

I must have rotated the harmonic balancer too far in reinstall and threw it out of time some how ?

 
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Pics if you can. Sounds like the engine may have jumped time.

Edit: The link below is for a 7th gen Civic but it should be very similar.

https://www.civicforums.com/forums/1...ne-timing.html