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In the last few weeks, I began hearing some BSR (Buzz/Squeek/Rattle) noise coming out from my driver's side door. Since this BSR (actually a squeek to my ears) was heard consitantly while driving on regular flat roads (unlike if you hit a bump), which began to drive me crazy... so I decided to make an appointment at the dealership. I figured 1.5 hours would be more than enough for them to do their work. Well, after sitting around for 30 minutes, the service clerk informs me to make another appointment since it was raining outside (a test drive would not be possible0, they told me they would need more time to work on the car. He suggested that I drop the car off for a full day, but that's obviously not possible, since I work in the US, and no Canadian dealership will drop me off in Detroit.

In anycase, I made another appointment for July 4th, which is a work holiday (US Independence Day) so that they'll have their day to work on the car. Just this afternoon, as I was closing my door, I heard this squeek, which sounded very familiar to the original noise I b*tched to my dealer about. I did some more investigating and found out that it was emminating from the outside. As shown on the attached picture, if you pressed anywhere on the upper portion of the door, it would squeek like a b*tch. I tried variations of this test by keeping the window open, 1/2 open, 3/4 open, and fully closed. Only when the window was fully closed (up) did the squeeking dominate. I also tried this on the passenger side, and it was quiet as a mouse.



My guess is that it has to do with the window mechanism, and hopefully the dealership will address this issue without causing more damage than good. I'm assuming that they are competent in their work, so instead of wasting my July 4th holiday waiting for my car to be fixed, I'm changing my appointment for half day (4 hours). I would ask that anyone who has a coupe (mine is a early 2002 MY coupe) try this test out by pressing along the upper portion of the driver and passenger's side door. Let me know if you have this same problem.

Cheers,

PiCASSO


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I have a similar squeak to what you're experiencing. It happens when I put my driver's windowall the way up, and when it hits the top, there is a squeak or clicking sound coming from that area you highlighted, on the inside, and lasts for a few seconds . But it only happens during the summer when it's hot, and it's only on the driver's side.

I don't find it such a big deal, though, and it doesn't really bother me that much.

 
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Instead, I have a clicking noise on the same position by coming out from the roof (headliner)...

I guess we just have to learn how to live with those rattling noise..... I know it's annoying and make the car sounds so cheap.. butwhat can we really do!?

 
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i too just starting hearing that same exact squeak noise you are talking about from the drivers side door/window like 2 weeks ago. i will check out your suggestion to see if its coming from the same place yours is and if it is, i will call my dealer. thanks, i thought i'd be the only one with that problem.

oh yeah, i did the same test you did too and mine only squeaks when the window is fully rolled up as well. weird.

c

 
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Okay. Well, with some more investigating into the problem, I'm realizing that this is also temperature (and probably humidity) related issue. Yesterday evening, my door was quiet as a mouse around 10:00pm, with temperature dropping to 20 or so Celcius. This evening at around 9:00pm (after sitting in the parking lot all day long), it made some noise, but not as loud as the original at 5:00pm Saturday afternoon. I was even at the Honda dealership, and I have tried a few non-driven 2-door coupes. All seems tight as a drum.

Then I discovered something new, which is probably what 'erikku' was talking about. My sunroof now squeeks too!. And this is the worst that I ever heard it. Then again, because of the different temperature this Sunday evening (9:00pm) and probably some relative humitidy (if rubber is part moisture dependent) that made is squeek like a b*tch. With the car parked, all I had to do is simply push up against the glass and every single rubber weatherstrip that's seal makes this rubber/metal contact. It's annoying! Fortunately, there's probably a solution that's referenced in some of these forums: Honda Technical Service Bulletin (TSB) 00-095, entitled "Squeak From the Moonroof Seal". Although it's only for 1998–2001 Accord and 1996–2000 Civic, I'm sure that this will also be applicable to our 2K1+ Civics.

I'm going to speak to my service manager and determine how much time he'll need to work on my car, with respect to getting the A) driver side door fixed and the B) sunroof squeek. I have a 1/2 day appointment July 4th which will hopefully be enough for the guys to do a dilligent job.

Additionally, Wednesday afternoon, I've discovered a 2-sided tape leaking from the inner plastic surrounding of my I/P cluster. This tape has melted it's way onto my cluster display in the top/left side of the plastic see-through part. It's not really that bad, but this tape should not be at all visible. I thought that only the two upper screws were required to remove that piece of inner plastic surrounding of I/P cluster, but it make take more time. This will be another 1/2 day appointment at the dealership. Whoohoo...

Fortunately, she still runs mechinically sound... so I'm happy, from that stand point. Let me know how you boys (and girls) are doing with your Civic's.

Cheers,

PiCASSO


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I have these very same problems you have mentioned. The dealer tried to alleviate the sunroof squeal with some of that thick ear wax grease they use to lube everything. It hasn't helped much. I can't say I love this car because I have owned previous CIVIC's and found them more reliable. But, I can count on what's under the hood. The engine bay is sound. This car will be with me for at least another year but, I can honestly say if I didn't stand to lose money due to interest and depreciation I would probably trade this car in tomorrow. I was spoiled by my previous CIVIC. I think the new suspension setup in the front has really started to bother me. I prefer double wishbone. Body roll and understeer are prevalent in this model, unlike in the past. And the rear suspension can be a real pain in the neck...literally!

 
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Hi PiCASSO

Any good news for the BSR (Buzz/Squeek/Rattle) noise coming out from the driver's side door. I got the same problem and I took it to the dealer and they said they cannot fix it.

Thanks.

 
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Well Mr. Fat Cat,

I brought my Civic to the dealership last Thursday morning and they worked on it for about 4.0 hours. Aside from the sunroof and some other glitch on the instrument panel cluster, they worked on the side door. They apparently found that there's a loose part inside the door panel, and this part makes noise when pressure is applied (to the door) by the window when it's fully closed. They apparently they fitted the door with some insulation, and after a test drive they claimed to have eliminated the noise.

I picked up the car in the afternoon and headed for Toronto (from Windsor). The noise was gone and I was so relieved. By the afternoon, at 6:30pm, the noise started to quietly creep back, since I had my ears trained for that specific sound. The noise was not as bad as before the dealership, but still audible. Weird thing, this evening while driving back to WIndsor, I heard nothing. I'm thinking that it's temperature dependent, as mentioned in my original complaint. We'll see how this comes out in the next few days.

Oh, I've spoken to my dealership Friday, and the service manager said that they can bring it in for round 2... which I'm all up for, since they have a good idea where to isolate of the noise with isulation. I'll keep you posted. And BTW, I think that they've put some thin tape around my sunroof, but it still squeaks here and there. I'm probably going to grease it up a little for the summer.

Cheers,

PiCASSO

 
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i had that problem too. if you're talking about the black surround of the i/p cluster then it *can* be removed by just those two screws. i know this because i had to remove it to push the sagging tape back up.

b.t.w....PiCASSO, on your ride in the members' section, why do your o.e. wheels on the bottom two pics look so big? they look like 17"ers. they look sharp. are they photoshopped?

-jro

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i'm so stupid. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif[/IMG] i answered my own question by actually reading top of your page in the members section. they are photoshopped.
-jro

 
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Yup. And using the 18" (target) divide by 15" (original), I got the 120% increase to make those rims look nice. Although I've considered on many occasions to purchase a set of 18" rims (and tires) along with a 1.5" drop, the fact of the matter is that the Detroit roads will destroy my car to the point that I'll be coming weekly to my dealer for BSR issues. Oh well... maybe in Cali... [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]

 
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yeah, i've been thinking about buying large wheels, but the roads here in missouri are so crappy. i think that i'm just going to go with 15" or 16".
-jro

 
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It's all dependent on your personal tolerence. I personally like the harsher ride, but I'm finding that even with the stock 15" OEM rims, I'm continuously punishing my Civic. You probably have 14 inchers with covers, so I don't blame you for wanting something larger and better looking than plastic. 16 would be a good balance between ride, performance, and comfort. Since I already have stock 15", upgrading to 16's would be pointless. We'll see what takes place, but I highly doubt that Detroit will be fixing I96 any time soon. Their best way of fixing roads is to patch them up. But we all know that the best solution is out with the old (strip it) and in with the new (pavement).

Cheers,

PiCASSO

 
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I've had this driver's door sqweak for years in my 99 and now my 2k2, especially on hot days. I've tried everything from inserting foams in critical areas, to disassembly-reassembly of the inside panel, and ... nothin' doin'.

A month ago, on a very warm day, where the damn squeaking was intolerable, i sprayed WD-40-type lubricant all over the the area of the door where the latch is, on the rubber seals, in the latch itself and in-between the trim and the door, and, VOILÀ !!! : a little messy, but NO MORE SQWEAK !

And no more sqweaks ever since.
If only I had I thought of this before !

Hope it works for all you guys.

BamBam

 
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Nice. I'm going to try that once I have the 'non-barable- condition. Cheers!

 
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*sigh*
i had my window closed today cause i acutally used A/C....

i heard squeeking coming from the driver's door or my new coupe....

it has only 400km on it too....

anyone get a definite fix for the squeek yet?

 
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Well, turboslug, I had my car again at the dealer 2 weeks ago... and they've worked on the door. Seemed liked it was good for about a 1/2 day, but the noise came back. In the last 2 weeks, the noise hasn't been that apparent. But I'm hearing much more wind noise that seems to be emminating from the driver-side B-pillar window. And just recently, I found an extra clip laying underneath my driver seat, which may either be an extra clip or a clip they forgot to install. I'm going to make another appointment with them soon, for another tweak at the driver side door. My car, BTW, has now a little over 30,000 km.

 
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here's an update to my situation wit my 02 coupe....

i drove the car today with the windows all the way down....

i still hear the rattle/squeak even though the window is down...

err...anyone think that moving side pannel is the cause of the squeak/rattles? i'd think the moving side panel is meant to keep a tighter seal in order to reduce road noise but it seems to be causing noise itself...