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One thing that was a bit disconcerting. I have head studs, and I checked torque after 2000 miles and again at 5000 miles after installing. The disconcerting thing was 2 of them took zero effort to loosen when I was taking the head off.
The ones at number 5 and 6 were the ones in question. However, all the signs of leakage were on cylinder 1, whereas the ones in question are below and above cylinders 2 and 3, respectively.
The machine shop I take my heads to haven't failed me yet. I blame myself for allowing slight overheating conditions both when I had water passage leakage and this last time for not taking action.
As far as the gasket I used, for head gasket, I've used nothing but Honda OEM from either Majestic or the local dealership.
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Would it be safe to helicoil the head bolt holes? If not, I'm gonna blow my car up.
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Sure, it's an iron block. If you can find the appropriate thread size and it doesn't look like it will be scary thin, go for it.
(SOME engines have unusual size head bolts)
Also, time-sert is a great thread insert IMO but probably more expensive to start with a whole kit
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You sure its iron? I thought it was an aluminum block. 3 of the 10 are stripped out of the block. Stripped out at 14 ft-lbs, that is
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Hrm.. You have me second guessing myself. I'll have to check tomorrow.
In any case, I'm gonna have to figure out how to either helicoil it or timesert the affected holes. Timesert seems like a better fix, but I'd have to get crafty with installing them since the threads are about... a half in deep, and the timesert is designed to sit flush with the surface..
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In any case, I'm gonna have to figure out how to either helicoil it or timesert the affected holes. Timesert seems like a better fix, but I'd have to get crafty with installing them since the threads are about... a half in deep, and the timesert is designed to sit flush with the surface..
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In any case, I'm gonna have to figure out how to either helicoil it or timesert the affected holes. Timesert seems like a better fix, but I'd have to get crafty with installing them since the threads are about... a half in deep, and the timesert is designed to sit flush with the surface..
Not sure if the depth from the top of the deck downward on a D17 is the same as a D16? Hopefully it is.
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Yep, m10-1.25
Howd you get the other helicoil all the way in? They're ranged at the bottom to help install the bolt, no? Just snip one and use a scribe or something to drive it in?
Howd you get the other helicoil all the way in? They're ranged at the bottom to help install the bolt, no? Just snip one and use a scribe or something to drive it in?
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Man, I can barely recall what I did last week let alone three years ago when I did that head gasket..lol.
1) IIRC: I used a small diameter drill bit to measure depth from top of deck, used a ruler to measure depth in millimeters from above mentioned drill bit.
2) When using the recommended sized drill bit listed on the helicoil kit I used tape to mark the depth in millimeters (from #1) to mark stopping point.
3) I used the same measurement (from #1) and tape on the tap tool to mark stopping point.
4) I used the same measurement (from #1) to mark the length of total stacked helicoil..which ended up as roughly one and a half. Unfortunately, I can't remember whether I inserted the 1/2 sized one or the fulled sized one in first. I cut the (half) coil with a very good quality Craftsman small dyke tool: https://c.shld.net/rpx/i/s/i/spin/im...&wid=64&qlt=50
As far as the tangs I think I suctioned them out with my good ole' (20 years old) Kirby vacuum.
You could call whoever manufacturer's helicoils and ask them if they have longer ones (single piece) in the same diameter and pitch needed. PDF chart: http://www.helicoil.in/pdf/HeliCoil%20Catalogue.pdf
Here's a related thread..see reply#2: https://honda-tech.com/forums/tech-m...nserts-818532/
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One of the guys in our shop tried to put double helicoils in a V6 head bolt hole and couldn't thread the bolt in afterwards.
Ended up pulling one of them back out and just running with the single helicoil.
I can only assume it is still on the road.
Ended up pulling one of them back out and just running with the single helicoil.
I can only assume it is still on the road.
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This is a good helicoil video. he mentions stacking at the 5:05 time mark:
The narrator in the above video sounds like Da Bears:
The narrator in the above video sounds like Da Bears:
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Installed 5 helicoils: 3 to repair already damaged holes and 2 as a preemptive measure for 2 questionable ones. All 10 survived round 1 of training. 2 repairs holes failed round 2, as did a third unaltered hole.
I'm just ducking done.
I'm just ducking done.
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Nope.. I'm taking this as a sign to move on. I have a buddy in cincy that is heavily considering buying it off me as a project track car. I'd force him to join the forum to keep us updated on my fallen baby. lol
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Sad news. You have 17k posts and I assume they're from your 7th gen ownership. You've dedicated a lot of time and energy to this generation of civic. I sometimes see mint low mileage (50-70k) manual coupes and sedans going for somewhere around $3000 here. Maybe worth finding one of those?
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the other engine you have, is it useable?
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It's non-existent now. When I swapped the bottom end (rod knock), it sat for a while, then my dad got rid of it a little while ago.
Like I said, I'm taking this as a sign to move on
Like I said, I'm taking this as a sign to move on
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Domestic maybe? C5 vettes are a prime pick for collectors at the moment. "price per performance" is really solid on them right now. Probably start seeing them increase in price soon.
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Or do like James and me and get a 1st gen miata
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James is trying to get me to join club miata. Not gonna happen.
I was looking at some '15 Si coupes. Found some for around the $15k mark
I was looking at some '15 Si coupes. Found some for around the $15k mark