Starting Problems after Timing Belt Change
08-19-2015
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Starting Problems after Timing Belt Change
I have a problem with my 05 Civic that baffles me. Last winter the oil light came. I checked the oil level and it was right on full. I had it taken to a local shop (not a Honda shop as there isn't one in my town) and they said the bottom 2-3 inches of the oil pan was frozen solid. Once they thawed it and changed the oil they couldn't get it started. They said they checked the timing belt and said it was not lined up properly. They changed the belt and pulleys etc. They eventually got it running but only if they pulled the cam sensor connector.
It will start and run now, but it takes 4 or 5 times turning it over. It runs okay at under 3500 rpm but much more and it bogs down. It will still only run without the cam sensor disconnected. They had replaced the cam sensor but it didn't help.
I'm thinking it's related to the cam timing but not sure if it might be related to freezing up. Any ideas?
It will start and run now, but it takes 4 or 5 times turning it over. It runs okay at under 3500 rpm but much more and it bogs down. It will still only run without the cam sensor disconnected. They had replaced the cam sensor but it didn't help.
I'm thinking it's related to the cam timing but not sure if it might be related to freezing up. Any ideas?
08-19-2015
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Re: Starting Problems after Timing Belt Change
Freezing up?
How much water was in the oil to make it freeze solid, if it did in fact freeze solid?
Did it actually run in that condition? If it managed to run, it could have done all sorts of bearing damage due to severe lack of lubrication (does it knock loudly now?)
IF someone unfamiliar with Hondas stuck a wrench on the crank and turned it the wrong direction that could make it jump time!
How much water was in the oil to make it freeze solid, if it did in fact freeze solid?
Did it actually run in that condition? If it managed to run, it could have done all sorts of bearing damage due to severe lack of lubrication (does it knock loudly now?)
IF someone unfamiliar with Hondas stuck a wrench on the crank and turned it the wrong direction that could make it jump time!
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It didn't freeze solid. It still turned over but wouldn't start. My son was driving it to school and back through the winter - only a couple of miles each way so it never warmed up to operating temperature. The ice must have built up through condensation a little bit at a time until it blocked the oil flow. We see -30 pretty regularly here through the winter and it doesn't have a block heater so that engine starts its mornings pretty cold!
The engine runs quiet. I don't think it ran with low oil pressure for two long. There could be some damage to the bearings but it's the cam sensor thing that makes me think timing as well.
Is there a way to check and adjust the timing without the tearing apart required for a belt change?
The engine runs quiet. I don't think it ran with low oil pressure for two long. There could be some damage to the bearings but it's the cam sensor thing that makes me think timing as well.
Is there a way to check and adjust the timing without the tearing apart required for a belt change?
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Re: Starting Problems after Timing Belt Change
Is there a way to check and adjust the timing without the tearing apart required for a belt change?
adjust: no
08-20-2015
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