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Old Jul 13, 2014
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Serious engine problem with my 02 Civic Sedan LX, advice please?

Ooook so I have a 2002 Honda Civic LX Sedan. I bought it new and it was doing fine for a long time but then it would start idling really rough and shaking for a while first driving it. Check engine light was on too. I bought a fancy tester from O’Reilly’s and it gave a P0303 error. So cylinder 3 problem right?

This pic:

http://0.tqn.com/d/autorepair/1/0/T/f/92851753.gif

shows that the cylinders go from 4 3 2 1 if looking at it from the front of the car.

My friend helped me change the spark plugs and when we took them out they were all dry except number 3 – the plug, the on-plug distributer coil, and tube they were in were covered in oil. So we cleaned it off and replaced all the plugs. We also swapped the distributer coil or ‘boot’ as I think they’re called.

Then a few weeks later the problems weren’t going away so we bought a valve cover kit, new seals for spark plugs and a cam shaft cover and we replaced all those. Things were going well for a couple of months until a couple weeks ago when the engine light came on, engine shaking and the P0303 code came back. It went away though after that but then yesterday when I started it and all throughout me driving it somewhere (it was a mandatory appointment so I had to drive it) it shook really bad, like worse than before. Shook when I drove it back too.

Today I had my friend come over and cylinder 3 was oily again. We did a compression test and we got as the readings 110 – 110 – 110 – 140. Each one held those readings for a few minutes until removing the tester. We also tested the coils/boots by using a spark tester and they were fine. After putting everything back though the car ran fine. I don’t want to risk it though so I really need advice.

It’s likely an internal engine problem right, something with a piston? Should I try and get a local mechanic to fix it which would be expensive? I know replacing the engine would be very expensive so I can’t afford that (it would probably be better just to get a new car at that point). The guy at Oreillys said it would be $3000 just for the engine + money to put it in from a mechanic.

Thanks so much for any advice and input!
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Re: Serious engine problem with my 02 Civic Sedan LX, advice please?

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Today I had my friend come over and cylinder 3 was oily again.
what do you mean by this comment?

are you saying the outside of the spark plug and the coil were covered in oil again after you replaced the seals?

or do you mean the end of the spark plug is oily after you remove it from the engine?

how is your coolant level? temp guage? is the engine running hotter then normal?

there is a possibility of a blown head gasket here

try swapping the number 3 coil pack with the number one coil pack and see if the problem moves to number 1 cyl
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Re: Serious engine problem with my 02 Civic Sedan LX, advice please?

Carefully inspect where the rubber ring (in the valve cover) has to stretch over the sparkplug tube.

See this post for a picture of what I mean: https://www.civicforums.com/forums/3...ml#post4634397


The oil soaked coil boot is probably damaged. Swollen and oil soaked, high voltage (spark) can breach the seal.
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Re: Serious engine problem with my 02 Civic Sedan LX, advice please?

Originally Posted by mikey1
what do you mean by this comment?

are you saying the outside of the spark plug and the coil were covered in oil again after you replaced the seals?

or do you mean the end of the spark plug is oily after you remove it from the engine?

how is your coolant level? temp guage? is the engine running hotter then normal?

there is a possibility of a blown head gasket here

try swapping the number 3 coil pack with the number one coil pack and see if the problem moves to number 1 cyl
We pulled out the distributor coils since we were going to do the compression test and it had oil around it again.
The spark plug and the boot that goes on top of it (that delivers the electricity for the spark) had oil on it. So the spark plug has oil BEFORE taking it out of the engine.

yes we did already try swapping but the problem did not move.

How hard is it to fix a head gasket?
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Re: Serious engine problem with my 02 Civic Sedan LX, advice please?

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How hard is it to fix a head gasket?
Oil in the spark plug tube is not caused by a head gasket issue.
See my previous post.
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Re: Serious engine problem with my 02 Civic Sedan LX, advice please?

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We pulled out the distributor coils since we were going to do the compression test and it had oil around it again.
The spark plug and the boot that goes on top of it (that delivers the electricity for the spark) had oil on it. So the spark plug has oil BEFORE taking it out of the engine.

yes we did already try swapping but the problem did not move.

How hard is it to fix a head gasket?
answer ALL the questions i asked in my previous post,

you need to fix the oil leak PROPERLY first, then see how it runs,
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