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Old Feb 22, 2014
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Timing belt change-what else should be done? SUCCESS

140K miles- Going to have the dealer change my timing belt, what else should be done while they are doing it? Rough estimate on cost? This is the first time I have had it done-too much for me for a diy.

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Re: Timing belt change-what else should be done?

To save some money you could buy OE parts online and find a dealer/shop that will instal them.

I would replace:

Timing belt
Timing belt tensioner
Water pump
Crank Seal
Cam seal
Valve cover gasket set
Accessory belts (since they will be off)
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Re: Timing belt change-what else should be done?

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To save some money you could buy OE parts online and find a dealer/shop that will instal them.
a dealership won't do that.....that would be like bringing your own food to a restaurant and asking them to cook it for you,



to the original poster, i would replace the timing belt and timing belt tensioner, 2 drive belts, cam seal and crank seal seeing as they are cheap, and that's it if your tight on cash,

if you want to spend extra money and have the money to spend, then replace your water pump, thermostat, and coolant while your at it,
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Re: Timing belt change-what else should be done?

I must have a nice dealer near me then. As long as its a honda part they don't care where I got it from.
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Re: Timing belt change-what else should be done?

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a dealership won't do that.....that would be like bringing your own food to a restaurant and asking them to cook it for you,



to the original poster, i would replace the timing belt and timing belt tensioner, 2 drive belts, cam seal and crank seal seeing as they are cheap, and that's it if your tight on cash,

if you want to spend extra money and have the money to spend, then replace your water pump, thermostat, and coolant while your at it,
Thanks guys, I'll bite the bullet and get it all done. I'll post the cost after a few brews...
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Re: Timing belt change-what else should be done?

Got a quote to : Replace timing belt & tensioner, water pump, thermostat, coolant, crank & cam seals, valve cover gasket, and 2 drive belts, $1465.
Does that sound reasonable?
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Re: Timing belt change-what else should be done?

Does that sound reasonable?
No.




Wait.
Depends on your market.
IMO, that's WAAAAAY high for my area.
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Re: Timing belt change-what else should be done?

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$1465.
That's high for me also.

When my tension pulley broke and I needed a new head with all new valve train my total was just under $1500. With all the parts you said plus a new radiator.
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Re: Timing belt change-what else should be done?

Holy ****, 1465 for a timing belt? I paid less when I decided I was frustrated and had another shop replace valves/hg for me.

Local dealership quoted me ~$650 for a timing belt (along with water pump, tensioner, ac/ps belt) job.
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Re: Timing belt change-what else should be done?

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No.Wait. Depends on your market.
IMO, that's WAAAAAY high for my area.
That's way high for here, and they raep you raw here (one dealer on an island with lots of very proud indies).

I'd shop around... unless that shop has the best rep you can find for timeliness and you see an itemized RO, I'd look elsewhere. Even if you had to drive 100 mi and find something to do all day, that's worth $500-$600 savings to me...
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Re: Timing belt change-what else should be done?

I looked it up, my online 100% OEM parts list for my 05 was about $200. Can't remember the labor but it was done by an independent top technician.... and was a very fair price as always.
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Re: Timing belt change-what else should be done?

Originally Posted by gotcivicback
Got a quote to : Replace timing belt & tensioner, water pump, thermostat, coolant, crank & cam seals, valve cover gasket, and 2 drive belts, $1465.
Does that sound reasonable?
For that kind of money, they should be doing the head gasket too (which is typically when all this other stuff gets replaced at the same time).
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Re: Timing belt change-what else should be done?

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For that kind of money, they should be doing
a reach around, and a kiss when it's all over.
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Re: Timing belt change-what else should be done?

Lol!
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Re: Timing belt change-what else should be done?

Holy crap! I bought a 2005 LX last year for $1800.00 with 199k miles and the
car had the timing/water pump, seals,.etc..done at 160k.
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Re: Timing belt change-what else should be done?

Originally Posted by gotcivicback
Got a quote to : Replace timing belt & tensioner, water pump, thermostat, coolant, crank & cam seals, valve cover gasket, and 2 drive belts, $1465.
Does that sound reasonable?
holy crap,

i will do it for $700 parts included,

and i will give you a 100K mile warranty
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Re: Timing belt change-what else should be done?

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holy crap,

i will do it for $700 parts included,

and i will give you a 100K mile warranty
Thanks for the input everyone. I am waiting for another quote, both are from dealers, if not any lower I will look for an independent service guy. The car runs great now and I am not putting many miles on it so no hurry to get screwed. Thanks again........
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Re: Timing belt change-what else should be done?

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I will look for an independent service guy.

i wouldnt really suggest that, i have heard of many independent shops botching these timing belt jobs
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Re: Timing belt change-what else should be done?

Originally Posted by gotcivicback
Thanks for the input everyone. I am waiting for another quote, both are from dealers, if not any lower I will look for an independent service guy. The car runs great now and I am not putting many miles on it so no hurry to get screwed. Thanks again........
Where are you located??
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Re: Timing belt change-what else should be done?

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Where are you located??
I am in Southern California. I sell printed products and have had a customer for 20 years, U S Foreign Auto, so my brain finally clicks, I call him and he knows what needs to be done, $600 or so. I forgot my Honda was a foreign car,,,,Thanks again for all your help. btw, one dealer never bothered to give me a price and I called and faxed over the quote information twice...
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Re: Timing belt change-what else should be done?

Sounds good... I would confirm oem parts and not a cheap kit though.
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Re: Timing belt change-what else should be done? SUCCESS

If the board had a party I would bring the beer. Thanks to everyone that helped me saye $745. I had the Timing belt, Tensioner, Water Pump, Drive Belts, (OEM Kit) Oil and Oil Filter and the spark plugs done for $702. The mechanic said the seals were fine, he could have charged me for the work, but said they did not need to be changed. The car runs great.
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Re: Timing belt change-what else should be done? SUCCESS

Originally Posted by gotcivicback
If the board had a party I would bring the beer.

that can be arranged.....better make it 4 or 5 cases

i will have one by myself
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If the board had a party I would bring the beer.
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Re: Timing belt change-what else should be done? SUCCESS

Fixes on Civics are super easy to do yourself. I changed all my belt (timing, a/c, and power steering) in 2 hours. Just make sure that you have your car in time before you put everything back together.
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