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Old Jan 17, 2013
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Dont know where this part goes?

I removed my cylinder head from my 2003 Civic EX. I think these parts fell out of the head when I was taking it off. I cannot post photos so I will describe. Cylindrical piston with spring. Spring is 22 mm long and 8 mm in diameter. Piston is 12 mm diam 52 mm long with counter bor for spring and hole drilled to the center
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Re: Dont know where this part goes?

Sorry about that, posted to the wrong thread.
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Re: Dont know where this part goes?

Oooh, gonna need pics or maybe find your parts in a parts catalog.....
Do you know where these fell out of?

Did you take the top (solenoid coil) off of the VTEC valve?
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Re: Dont know where this part goes?

This game is hard without pictures..

I really cant think of anything like that that would fall out of the head..

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Re: Dont know where this part goes?

I'll take "Shouldn't have done that" for $200 Alex....




Did you mess with the cam and rocker arms, have one of the VTEC locking pins fall out of a rocker?
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Re: Dont know where this part goes?

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I'll take "Shouldn't have done that" for $200 Alex....?
ROFL, ya, we need pics
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Re: Dont know where this part goes?

this is it
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Re: Dont know where this part goes?

Originally Posted by ezone
Did you take the top (solenoid coil) off of the VTEC valve?
^^^^tomg, can you answer the above?

That looks like a VTEC solenoid piston and spring to me. And you may be missing another piece as well. I can't remember.

If it is the VTEC piston and spring, it goes where the pictures finger is below.



Which is located at the back left of the head as you're looking at the engine from the front.


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Re: Dont know where this part goes?

Woohoo! My first guess was teh winnar!

What do I win? What do I win?
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Re: Dont know where this part goes?

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Woohoo! My first guess was teh winnar!

What do I win? What do I win?
Is this the bottom of the solenoid?
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Re: Dont know where this part goes?

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Is this the bottom of the solenoid?

This is a photo i found on the web.
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=...electedIndex=4
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Re: Dont know where this part goes?

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This is a photo i found on the web.
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=...electedIndex=4
This part is similar but not the exact match. It is the spacer that is missing on my photo. Do you know if the valve I have needs the spacer?

Photos of my valve with piston and spring installed
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Re: Dont know where this part goes?

I think that if you are missing any of its pieces (guts), you are going to purchase the complete valve.

Box #9 is what you buy.









Linky http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/...EAD+%28VTEC%29
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Re: Dont know where this part goes?

I don't think your missing a spacer. I thought so, but I don't think this gen has a spacer and it sits as shown in your pics. Worst case is you put it back together and VTEC doesn't work and puts you in limp mode. Then you'll need a new valve as ezone pointed out.
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Re: Dont know where this part goes?

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I don't think your missing a spacer. I thought so, but I don't think this gen has a spacer and it sits as shown in your pics. Worst case is you put it back together and VTEC doesn't work and puts you in limp mode. Then you'll need a new valve as ezone pointed out.
I dont think i am missiing the spacer either. The one I have is a different design. The spool is longer and the mating part looks like it has something some cylindrical stop cast into it.

I would be nice to see an assembley dwg or photo before I put it together tomorrow.
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Re: Dont know where this part goes?

Install spring and install piston with "counter bor for spring"(as you called it) facing down. Install new o-ring and torque bolts to 7.2 lbf-ft or 86.4 inch pounds.


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Re: Dont know where this part goes?

Originally Posted by Matt_75
Install spring and install piston with "counter bor for spring"(as you called it) facing down. Install new o-ring and torque bolts to 7.2 lbf-ft or 86.4 inch pounds.


Thanks for this information
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Re: Dont know where this part goes?

Did you end up fixing it?
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