Brake pedal squeak

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Jun 22, 2010
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Every time I let go of the brake pedal (release the pedal after pushing down), I get a squeaking sound. This sound is not heard when pressing down on the pedal; only when letting it come back up.

First time around I took it to Pep boys and the guy told me to remove the panel just below the steering wheel and lubricate the "bushing" above the break pedal.

I did as he told me, but upon opening the panel and pressing the break pedal a couple of time, I could tell that the sound is not coming from anything located below the steering wheel. Actually, if I had to take a guess, it seems to be coming from around the middle of the back seat (I am not sure if that makes too much sense).

I took it back to pep boys this time for tire rotation and balance. I asked them to check the sound again. This time the tech wrote: "cleaned the rear drums and sound is gone". When I got the car back I checked the sound. No sound this time around; but five minutes of driving away from pep boys, the sound is back again!

I was willing to take it to the dealer to have the break pedal checked. But they wanted $96 just to check it. This price seems unreasonable to me.

Any suggestions as to how I can fix this squeaking?

My car is a 2005 Civic VP coupe with 45,000 miles.
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Jun 22, 2010
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Re: Brake pedal squeak
Try slightly raising and lowering the parking brake lever up & down and see if the noise occurs.

It is common for the 7th gens to have this noise occur from the rear shoes.

The contact area rubs against the backing plate. You can lube the contact area and quiet it.
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Jun 22, 2010
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This is almost certainly the rear brake shoes.
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Jun 22, 2010
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How do I go about adding lube to the contact area? And what should I use - WD-40?
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Jun 22, 2010
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This should help: https://www.civicforums.com/forums/4...placement.html How many miles does your car have? You likely need new shoes so just replace them with Honda OEM shoes the kit comes pre greased. If not you basically need to grease where the springs and levers attach to the shoe in the DIY^
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Jun 22, 2010
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Quote: How do I go about adding lube to the contact area? And what should I use - WD-40?
The contact points are protruding portions with a flat surface on the backside of the shoes near the backing plate and they move back and forth with each braking. 2 per shoe, 4 total.

After I lubed mine on my 05 the noise was gone, it came back for a short while then went away for good.

I suggest very small dabs of grease so it will stay put.
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Jun 22, 2010
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use a general purpose grease or white lithium should be fine. Dont use anything that sprays on, you want a "thick coat."
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Jun 22, 2010
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Re: Brake pedal squeak
Quote: This should help: https://www.civicforums.com/forums/4...placement.html How many miles does your car have? You likely need new shoes so just replace them with Honda OEM shoes the kit comes pre greased. If not you basically need to grease where the springs and levers attach to the shoe in the DIY^
Currently my car has 45,000 miles on it. But I have had several brake inspections done and they have told me that I don't need new brakes at the moment.
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Jun 22, 2010
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Quote: use a general purpose grease or white lithium should be fine. Dont use anything that sprays on, you want a "thick coat."
Unluckily, I am not a very good do-it-yourself kind of person. I can still however be classified under the DIY, but as in destroy-it-yourself.

Could I just walk in to the mechanic asking to "lubricate the rear brake shoes contact point"??? They should know what I am talking about - correct?

Hopefully, they don't start asking me any questions; I will just bring a print out of this thread and tell them to read it and do what you guys say.
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Jun 23, 2010
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Re: Brake pedal squeak
Have you done the parking brake test to determine if it is from the rear ??

Normally rear shoes will last until 120k or more, they should be fine (your front pads may need replacement soon)

A mechanic could do the job very easily and would most likely have all needed items.

It is easy to spot once the drums are off.
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Jun 23, 2010
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I guess you could just tell them, I'm sure you could handle it though if you wanted to.

45,000 miles, ya you wont need to replace them yet, thats good!
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Jun 23, 2010
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Re: Brake pedal squeak
I have the same squeak that i'm gonna try & take care of soon
It's def from the rear brakes.. the squeak is there when i depress the brakes or release the parking brake
Prodresurgence, i thought white lithium grease was in a spray can for some reason
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Jun 23, 2010
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Quote: I have the same squeak that i'm gonna try & take care of soon
It's def from the rear brakes.. the squeak is there when i depress the brakes or release the parking brake
Prodresurgence, i thought white lithium grease was in a spray can for some reason
It comes both ways, I would use the actual grease opposed to the aerosol can.
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Jun 23, 2010
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Re: Brake pedal squeak
Quote: Have you done the parking brake test to determine if it is from the rear ??

Normally rear shoes will last until 120k or more, they should be fine (your front pads may need replacement soon)

A mechanic could do the job very easily and would most likely have all needed items.

It is easy to spot once the drums are off.
So I tested the parking brake. There is a very similar sound (lower pitch and volume though) when the parking break is lowered from the "on" position.

Does this finally prove that it is the the rear brake shoes contact point?

A side note: so while performing the test mentioned above, I was unsure of what exactly to do. I thought maybe you meant pumping on the break pedal while also moving the emergency break up and down slightly. This came with the realization that I could hear the squeak from only the parking break being lowered (and the final realization that is what you meant ). But now the car seems to have a clanking noise when the transmission is on "park" and I pump the breaks. It sounds *clank-clank* right below the transmission shift and if I can also feel the vibration if I place my hand on the transmission handle. Further testing reveals: this clanking does not happen when the car is in neutral or on drive (while pumping the breaks). It also does not happen while the car is on park and i move the emergency break up and down. So is this somehow related to the brake of the "park" setting?

Did I manage to make a simple problem worse?
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Jun 24, 2010
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Re: Brake pedal squeak
Yes, I was talking about pulling & releasing the parking brake lever (hold the button in)

I would not really suggest pumping the brake pedal too much or too hard.

The conditions you mention for the clank-clank sound would suggest the shift interlock solenoid (prevents shifting out of P if your foot is not on the brake pedal) You may feel & hear it slightly, but that noise ?...idk should be more of a quiet click or snap sound.
Nothing you have done working the brakes should effect this.
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Jun 24, 2010
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Re: Brake pedal squeak
Quote: Yes, I was talking about pulling & releasing the parking brake lever (hold the button in)

I would not really suggest pumping the brake pedal too much or too hard.

The conditions you mention for the clank-clank sound would suggest the shift interlock solenoid (prevents shifting out of P if your foot is not on the brake pedal) You may feel & hear it slightly, but that noise ?...idk should be more of a quiet click or snap sound.
Nothing you have done working the brakes should effect this.
So the "clanking noise" comes about only when the car is in park and with just pressing the brake pedal slightly (maybe even with only 1cm). And it sounds more like plastic hitting other piece of plastic (best I can describe it). Definitively not metal hitting metal.

When the car is in neutral the sounds does not happen nor does it happen when the car is on park and I play around with the emergency brake.

I know I stated this yesterday, but I just confirmed it again today. I guess I was hoping that driving the car for a while might make the noise go away. (unrealistic hope?)

So going back to my original problem: now that everything points to the rear brake shoes contact point, do you guys have any recommendations as to how to find a good mechanic? I could take it to the dealer but I am guessing they will want an exorbitant amount of money just to lube the contact point.
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Jun 30, 2010
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Re: Brake pedal squeak
So I went to firestone last weekend and brought with me a printout from "my friend who is a honda expert" and it said the following:

This is almost certainly the rear brake shoes. It is common for the 7th gens to have this noise occur from the rear shoes. Basically, you can lube the contact area and quiet it. The contact points are protruding portions with a flat surface on the backside of the shoes near the backing plate (where the springs and levers attach to the shoe) and they move back and forth with each braking. 2 per shoe, 4 total. Use general purpose grease or white lithium should be fine. Don’t use anything that sprays on, you want a "thick coat."

I showed it to the guy in the counter and later to the mechanic working in my car. Totally got charged $26 after tax (They charged it as a clean and adjust). Now the sound is gone.

The best part was when the mechanic asked me what was the name of my mechanic friend. My response: "Craig W. Prodresurgence"

Anyways, thanks again guys.
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