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I couldnt really tell from what I've been reading about the auto trans an in depth desciption of their problems. Others 01-03 have problems with trans slipping. So far from this thread several people have said the trans jerk is below 20 mph and hard downshifts and from 3>2. Two 2005 auto trannies have the same problem (EL and a VP). I have a 2005 EX and I have noticed the hard downshift from 3>2, and GSL works flawlessly (on that trip I was traveling 65-72 mph) even if I had the cruise set however I engaded it to D3 before I started to climb a hill and once it had downshifted and was not to the top yet I put it back into D and it obviously did what it was supposed to (whether or not I engaged D3 I just didnt want it to downshift under stress from the engine). I do notice from 0-10 mph when I have decelerated and then apply slow pressure to the gas pedal I feel the "jerk" which would be a 1>2 shift, and if I smush the pedal from first (in D or D3) and its a pretty abrupt jerk from 1>2 anywhere from 4-6k rpms. I have not noticed any problems when it shifts from 2>3>4. I do drive my car fairly hard moderately, follow honda recommended service schedule. So basically this transmission is a POS and did Honda do anything to improve this for the 04 and 05 models? Should I take it into Honda or do you think they'll just tell me its normal? If honda sucks at building transmissions they should just contract its transmissions like GM does with Getrag and Allison not saying they should go to those companies but, until they get it right. But Honda doesnt care about that they make enough sales as it is. Especially if the new 06 Civic's tranny isn't a great improvement either. You would think with all the Drive By wire throttle system it would work better.

 
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I doubt Honda will do anything about it, especially if it's out of warranty. Even in warranty they blew me off several times. They know there is a flaw but can't admit it. Mine finally got so bad it just broke one day. I had it totally rebuilt/replaced by a transmission specialist place and it works awesome now. No "jerks" anymore. This tells me there was a flaw someplace early on which only got worse. I now change my Tranny fluid using Honda OEM every other oil change. Don't leave it go any longer than that or you could find yourself replacing a tranny.

BTW, my rebuid has modified parts which are better than OEM the guy said. Not sure what all the entails but hey, it works perfectly now. Also, they installed a tranny cooler. A must with these crappy units.

I actually just drained and filled the tranny fluid today, along with an oil change. The piece of mind now is priceless after all I went through.

I recommend anyone take your car to a qualified specialist, not Honda. Unless it's under warranty. Demand you don't like the "jerk" and make them fix it or file a claim. If it's out of warrany you are out of luck with Honda. You need to take it to a specialist and see if they can salvage it or rebuild what the issue is. Mine was so far gone they couldn't even tell what caused the jerk. Everything was shot. So don't wait too long, get it looked at right away.

Again, I'll never buy another Honda with an automatic transmission. Pure junk.... and you have to really stay on top of it or it will come back and nail ya.

 
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lol the manual isn't much better than auto.

 
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So you don't think I should even think about an Si??? LOL

 
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no stay away from newer civics. the older 7thgen manuals were terrible too gears popping out and grinding, not going into reverse, etc lost of recalls.

 
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i feel all these problems stemmed from the fact that honda wanted to build a smaller tranny to increase interior room. that was one of the things honda bragged about when the 7th gens came out, small tranny, more interior space, no hump, better ac system, open green house 38mpg... blah blah

 
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Well I still have a warranty and I don't drive my car hard nor have I made any modifications to affect the transmission. But it doesnt slip, its just jerky like all the others. have 36,000 mi now, I have an extended warranty also good thing I got that.

 
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This is not about driving them hard, it doesn't make any difference. Too many people think we abuse our cars because of all the problems and it's just not true. In fact, most of us "babied" our cars. When there is a serious problem with engineering in the first place no matter how well you treat your car it's not going to help.

Don't buy Honda next time. That's the only way to make a point. There are better choices now, much better.

I hope Honda loses their ***** big time on reputation! They will, but it won't happen overnight. You are starting to hear things though. Finally.

 
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Okay, you do realize honda will fix the problems b/c they want to maintain their reputation. altho the quality wont be as high as back in the day, they still will fix the problem. plus, over half the 7th gen civics were made in canada or mexico....what'd u expect? high quality parts from canada or mexico!?

 
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They never fixed my problem. All Honda wanted was a lot more to just replace the tranny. My car jerked six months after I had it and three times to the dealership they didn't see a problem? I already explained all this. They suck and I hope this does hurt their reputation!!!! That's the point.

When my car finally dies (I can't wait for the day!!!) I will get a real car and never, ever, own another Honda. It's now paid off and I can't afford a car payment right now so I'm stuck in this miserable junk heap. At least it shifts smooth now but the rest of the car sucks too. I hate it.

 
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me too. just live with it man. a messed up trans isnt the end of the world, altho i am really hoping mine breaks within a year, before the warranty ends. its slipping pretty bad going 2>3 before it warms up. but yea it drives, so thats all that matters. every car has its problems. as much as i like my car, i dont think i could get honda again either...

 
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Guys, there's nothing wrong with your cars. The tranny coasts down in neutral and then engages when you tip into the go pedal. Annoying? Yes. Broken? No. It's just the way Honda set up the downshift programming. My old Taurus did the some thing about a thousand years back.....

 
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uh mine actually revs up like its in neutral before shifting to the next gear. i'm pretty sure thats a problem. and yea there is a defect in the older model tranny the clutch pack carrier is too thin. honda knows, which is why if you call and complain, they agree to pay alot of the repair out of warranty.

 
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its been proven that theres a problem with the tranny. I suggest you guys try different dealerships regarding this issue if one dealership doesnt want to resolve it. Ive been to 3-4 dealerships and not all of them are all that great. Ive taken in my civic to fix the drivers seat, one dealership took a week and still coudlnt fix it. SO i took it to another dealershiop 90 mins later, fixed.

 
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It's luck of the draw man... Go ahead and whine about not getting another Honda you will have problems with any other car you own.. no car is perfect.. go ahead and buy another car HONDA doesn't care. Most likely by the time you buy a different car Honda will have the issue fixed and the car you buy will be a lemon also.

I have plenty of complaints about my civic but still love it. Noises galore and tranny isnt the best, but I barely maintain it and its running at 160,000km.

 
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i love my civic, even though its pretty slow. The benefit is that with gas prices as they are now, i'm glad i own a civic

 
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omg i HATE this tranny. im trying to drive around having a good time and the stupid car keeps bogging after every gear almost like its stalling almost i have to keep pressing the gas to get it to downshift so the car moves. its like im pumping the gas pedal almost, like mush. then theres the crunch noises it makes if you slow down below 20mph and step the gas the thing sounds like the gears locked up.

 
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I know how the mush pedal feel is. Now that summer is here my car has to work even harder. Some days its better some are worse. This morning getting on the freeway it felt extremely sluggish. And when it's been sitting in the sun and the a/c is not cold yet but is starting to cool off...the higher the rpms go the hotter the air gets but then it shifts and is between 2 3 k again and the air is cool.

 
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with ac on the car is barely driveable as is, not to mention how the rpm keep going down cause the trans cant figure out what gear to stay in. and if i start to go up a hill, it decides to downshift without me even pressing the gas. stupid trans.

 
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What is the highest miles/kms that anyone has with their automatic transmission and is the AT still working fine?

 
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most i've heard die between 40-80k, but i've heard of a few lasting just over 100k

 
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im at 155,000 km not sure how many miles that is...

 

Im at 70k miles. Going strong and I dont see it dying before 200k miles

 
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Wow, and no "clump"? Or do you have a stick? Anway, these cars are sheet. 7th Gen was a disappointment for Honda. Figures. My luck. I buy into one when it's a down time. Not sure how the 8th Gen will be but after this, they lost a Honda fan. That's all it takes! I expect perfection HONDA! Not so in the 7th Gen. What a lousy car. Keep it in Japan! Don't let a freakin' American company design a tranny. BIG mistake!



LUCKY A**. All I can say. Unload the beast while you can!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

10,136! Wow, is this an issue or what? I haven't checked in for a few months but the response has been awesome. Can't someone forward this to Honda so we get some $$ back? I mean, don't they owe us something for a crappy tranny???????????????? Dang corporate America. Get away with anything and keep earning profits. If ONE person did not buy a HONDA because of this post I would be happy. Honda did us wrong and there have been 0 recalls because of it. That proves what kind of company they are and I hope whoever reads this passes the word to never purchase a HONDA machine ever again. WORD OF MOUTH is the best form of communication and I will stick to it!

Now, go elsewhere and tell all friends and family to AVOID a HONDA product.

Thanks.

 
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well i sure wouldnt buy another honda the new ones are even more of a disappointment. i just get my tranny fixed in a year when it dies and move on. i like the car and ya stuff happens i guess but what can you do. hopefully honda pays me a lil for it.

 
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I have a 2001 EX auto. I bought it new with eight miles on it. It now has 110k. All I have done is changed the oil,tranny fluid, tires and brakes.

I'm starting to feel rather fortunate. Gearbox from what I have read you dont beat on your cars and your maintance them. This is all odd. I have friends that own civics and I have never heard of these problems. My buddies a mechanic and hes never seen a Civic.

I suppose you guys have already done this but are these parts all coming from the same area or built in the same place?

Even a google search of civic transmission problems really only lead me back here. I hope this isnt a widespread problem, I've always like Honda.

 
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its interesting, cause i know alot of people here that have bad tranny, some shops know very well what the problem is, others dont. i baby my car, the fluid is changed every 10k, and i have a tranny cooler. its seen redline twice in 4 years. otherwise normal driving shifts between 3-4k. im also cautious how i drive too, like try and stop completely so it doesnt clunk when you press the gas, or i try and put in N at long lights so it doesnt overheat. i do things nobody else would and expected a long trans life. but 50k and its slipping, i expect maybe another year.

 
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After all that and its still slipping? Man.

Have you torn one apart at all? Curious what there using for parts, must be alot of plastic.

 
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ya it is i've heard firsthand. the parts they use are so crappy, the repair shops say they wont even bother to rebuild em. they just swap in a new one (which again has the same problem). the clutch pack carrier breaks apart, which first causes slipping, then once it gets bad chunks of it can get stuck in the filter and cause a whine sound from the pump, eventually it will die from fluid starvation. or else the internal filter will just get clogged on its own because there is no external filter to catch any debris that can be cleaned.

 
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I still have the same patethic problem in my auto tranny. Every time I take it to honda they give me some BS reason. Either they couldnt replicate the problem or my tranny fluid is dirty.