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Old Jul 8, 2004
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My Warranty Void w/ Revo SS

I took my civic to the shop today at Honda East in Columbus to service it for the problem with 2nd gear popping out that a lot of people have been having. My car has about 34000 miles on it so it is still under warranty. The popping out of second gear has gotten real bad lately happening almost everytime floor it and second and let off. I just got a call that they cant' do the repair work because i have an aftermarket shifter.... Has anyone else had this problem and what should i say to the dealer? I know the shifter changes nothing within the actual tranny it just changes the angle of the cable shifter to make the throw shorter. Im really pissed right now because im tired of dealerships trying to take the easier way out. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
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Uh, you should have taken it out beforehand. Plus, you would have been able to know right then if the revo was to blame or not.
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They need to prove that the revo caused the problem. If they can't, make them do the warranty work. Or slap on the stock one and take your business to another dealer. Another case of blaming aftermarket parts on poor honda reliability./..
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Go to Hugh White instead... even though it is on the west side. Those guys haven't given me or Zaskar any crap about having Revos (or intakes, or anything else). They're the only dealer I go to now.
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Yeah, you should have taken the SS before you went to the dealer.

Show them the magnusson-moss act law.
AFTER MARKET PARTS CONSUMER RIGHTS

Magnusson-Moss Act 1975



This is a very misunderstood subject in the aftermarket consumer circles. There is a law protecting vehicle owners from just this sort of fraudulent behavior practiced by some automotive dealers. The Magnusson-Moss Warranty - Federal Trade commission Improvement Act of 1975. Under the Magnusson-Moss Act, aftermarket equipment that improves performance does not void a vehicle manufacturer’s original warranty, unless the warranty clearly states the addition of such aftermarket equipment automatically voids your vehicles warranty or that the aftermarket device is the direct cause of the failure. The easiest way to check this is to look in your owner’s manual under, "what is not covered".
The actuality of what is not covered is to the aftermarket part itself. For example, coilover suspension. I mean, who or which dealer would actually warranty the coilover if it wasnt stock to the vehicle anyway?

Q. Does installing an aftermarket part, automatically void my vehicle factory warranty? A. NO, According to the Magnusson-Moss Act of 1975 (see below):

The Magnusson-Moss Warranty - Federal Trade Commission Improvement Act of 1975 protects consumers from such fradulent activity by new car dealers. Under this Act, aftermarket equipment that improves performance does not void a vehicle manufacturer's orginial warranty, unless the warranty clearly states the addition of aftermarket equipment automatically voids your vehicle's warrany or if it can be proven that the aftermarket device is the direct cause of the failure. The easiest way to check this is to look in your owner's manual under, "what is not covered". Under Magnusson-Moss Act a dealer must prove, not just vocalize, that aftermarket equipment caused the need for repairs before they can deny warranty coverage. If they cannot prove such claim-or offer an explanation- it is your legal right to demand compliance with the warranty. The Federal Trade Commission (202.326.3128) administers the Magnusson-Moss Act and monitors compliance with warranty law.
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you want to fix your problem with out all that drama. print this out and stick it in there face.

its called a TSB/recall http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/TSBScans/sb626650.pdf

your revo has nothing to do with it.
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Originally Posted by dj02
you want to fix your problem with out all that drama. print this out and stick it in there face.

its called a TSB/recall http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/TSBScans/sb626650.pdf

your revo has nothing to do with it.
I took that in to tell them what to fix, evidently they don't understand that its a problem on our cars no matter what shifter you have or whatever.
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No, they understand there's a problem. They'd just rather use your short shifter as an excuse to not do the work. Screw East... from what I hear they're owned by Ricart (UGH). I'd still swap your OEM shifter back in though, shouldn't take very long.
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Originally Posted by gearbox
They need to prove that the revo caused the problem. If they can't, make them do the warranty work. Or slap on the stock one and take your business to another dealer. Another case of blaming aftermarket parts on poor honda reliability./..
Exactly
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Originally Posted by scansel912
I took that in to tell them what to fix, evidently they don't understand that its a problem on our cars no matter what shifter you have or whatever.
take it to another honda dealer. they might just be to lazy to do it. if not contact corp headqurters.
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its more of they dont wanna do the work for cheaper.
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