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Front wheel tire tread issue's

So I recently had to get 2 new front tires on my 2006 civic si .... and when doing so I was advised that I get a front end inspection immediately due to the wear on my tires ....I was pointed out that it wasn't wearing down evenly... any suggestions would be much appreciated.
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Re: Front wheel tire tread issue's

Front AND rear inspection....
4 wheel alignment needs to be done too, if the suspension doesn't have other obvious problems.

Where did you get the new tires?
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Front AND rear inspection....
4 wheel alignment needs to be done too, if the suspension doesn't have other obvious problems.

Where did you get the new tires?
From a local shop...
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Re: Front wheel tire tread issue's

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From a local shop...
who doesn't offer wheel alignment?
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Originally Posted by ezone
who doesn't offer wheel alignment?
No...they mostly sell car stereo, alarms, and tires.. they don't have the machine to do alighnments.
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Re: Front wheel tire tread issue's

that seem to be more than alignments - it's rubbing against something.

Take to a shop ASAP to inspect what is going on down there.
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It's not rubbing on anything its wearing down on the inside & the outside of the tire more rapidly.
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Re: Front wheel tire tread issue's

if you cannot diagnose yourself, best bet is to take to a shop anyway.

I would also agree on their "Immediately".

If some parts are worn down enough to cause that without rubbing, it could come apart when you are in a highway. It will be much cheaper to solve while it's still assembled, and not apart while at speed.

Suspension parts issues are not to be taken lightly. (steering included)

Tires are the only contact point (solid) with the world.
Suspension is the only connection between tire/wheel assembly and the car.

Take them out and you are in the air, no control.

I stress - ASAP

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Re: Front wheel tire tread issue's

Ah, your car is a 8th generation, not 7th, so moving to correct section.
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Re: Front wheel tire tread issue's

Looks like the first tire has worn down to the wear bars pretty even all the way across plus some extra wear on the inboard edge..... might be a little "toed out".
Other 2 show some inboard edge wear too.

The cars do wear inboard edges a little more due to negative camber in the design (especially in the rear), but incorrect toe adjustment will aggravate that in a bad way.


Even if the alignment were perfect:
Underinflation eats both edges of a tire,
Too long on the front eats both edges, plus they wear about triple the rate of the rear tires (lack of tire rotation maintenance)
rears tend to eat inboard edges and can get choppy if tires aren't rotated regularly




Probably just need to check everything for being tight, then do a 4 wheel alignment check-- and as long as the camber (rear) and caster/camber (front) are within reasonable specs, correct the toe settings or add a little toe-in.
And rotate tires on a regular basis.
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Originally Posted by ezone
Looks like the first tire has worn down to the wear bars pretty even all the way across plus some extra wear on the inboard edge..... might be a little "toed out".
Other 2 show some inboard edge wear too.

The cars do wear inboard edges a little more due to negative camber in the design (especially in the rear), but incorrect toe adjustment will aggravate that in a bad way.


Even if the alignment were perfect:
Underinflation eats both edges of a tire,
Too long on the front eats both edges, plus they wear about triple the rate of the rear tires (lack of tire rotation maintenance)
rears tend to eat inboard edges and can get choppy if tires aren't rotated regularly




Probably just need to check everything for being tight, then do a 4 wheel alignment check-- and as long as the camber (rear) and caster/camber (front) are within reasonable specs, correct the toe settings or add a little toe-in.
And rotate tires on a regular basis.
I ended up having a friend who manages a Discount tire shop take a look. I had them do a full inspection and they walked me through it. Besides my bushings being shot, cracked and useless the wheel had excessive play 6" inches on the front tires ..when I was told it should have none when getting an inspection. So I ended up getting the front end done. Front lower control arms and front and rear alignment.
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Re: Front wheel tire tread issue's

6 inches?!?

Glad you went to take care of it... it definitely was in the h hazardous level, for you and however were close to you... you sure the car was not acting weirdly?

0.04 in play should be perceptible to hard to drive already...
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Shoulda been one noisy knocking squirrelly SOB on bumps too
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I was advised to get new lower control arms front & rear... but could only afford to do the front. Is it common for the rear to be a little more expensive than the front? $476.52 for the front control arms labor included.
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Big difference I can honestly say. I use to feel every little bump and potholes especially in the steering wheel, but not anymore. It feels like It did when I drove it off the lot.....
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Re: Front wheel tire tread issue's

I was advised to get new lower control arms front & rear
Second opinions can be valuable.

Why rear lower arms? Better get more opinions on this.

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$476.52 for the front control arms labor included.
A quick look in an online Honda dealer parts catalog....(did not look at any aftermarket parts)

Front arm, leading (compliance) bushings only, about 25 per side (part only)
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Front lower arm complete with bushings, about 182 per side (part only)

Installation and alignment are extra and will vary a lot.
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Originally Posted by ezone
Second opinions can be valuable.

Why rear lower arms? Better get more opinions on this.

-------------------------A quick look in an online Honda dealer parts catalog....(did not look at any aftermarket parts)

Front arm, leading (compliance) bushings only, about 25 per side (part only)
OR
Front lower arm complete with bushings, about 182 per side (part only)

Installation and alignment are extra and will vary a lot.
Sorry...forgot the front lower control arms came complete with bushings $260.90 total for parts
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Originally Posted by ezone
Second opinions can be valuable.

Why rear lower arms? Better get more opinions on this.

-------------------------A quick look in an online Honda dealer parts catalog....(did not look at any aftermarket parts)

Front arm, leading (compliance) bushings only, about 25 per side (part only)
OR
Front lower arm complete with bushings, about 182 per side (part only)

Installation and alignment are extra and will vary a lot.
They basically showed me that all my bushings were shot front and back... all together it was around $1000 flat to do both the front and rear suspension with alignment included
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