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i was at a local shop today and i was tellin them my plans for turbo and describing the SF turbo system thats being dyno'd right now, and they swore up and down that one our stock engines (or close to stock) would blow. that our little D's can;t handle the pressure. please...post any all evidence, explainations, for those of us who have little faith in turbo or the abilty to safely boost our cars. thnx.

 
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The only thing I can really say is... some people on this site have turbo's. I haven't heard a complain yet. Also, some people are on the bottle which is semi-equivalent. FI is FI. Civics with a d16 are turbocharged and can boost around the same as the 1.7. The d16 is only a step away from the d17 really (i think). I haven't heard of too many problems there. But that's all I can say and it is all really assumptions.

 
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it won't blow as long as you installed it right.... the new sf system comes with a second fuel pump which prevents our cars from running too lean...

also... a P.F.M.(revalutionary fuel controller) is included in the kit... it works very similar to a FMU.... that should also help going lean and blowing.... from the updates that sf has given us, he's been riding on it at 5 pounds... which is a small to moderate amount of boost... so yea i really wouldn't sweat it... run cold plugs, get the kit installed correctly, and maintain the car and it should be fine....

 
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thnx for the reassurance.

 
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yea what they said...


if you want you could run the car realy safe at 5psi an it still made 150 to the ground

 
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Turbo's are safe as long as they are run at the recommended Psi. People blow engines when they crank up the Psi and their internals can't take the pressure.

 
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ok flyrice, having made that statement, what is the recommended psi for stock? 5? and if the internals can't handle the pressure, what needs to be done to make them handle the increased pressure? i guess this question isn;t just for flyrice.

 
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1.) Internals - valves, valve springs, rods(shot peened), pistons, headgasket, etc..

these are pretty much optional for boosting no more than 4-5 psi.. if you want to boost more then most of these components are manditory...

2.) Other Stuff - 91 or higher octane gas, new clutch, ignition, colder plugs, secondary fuel pump, injectors, fuel rail....

3.) Our civics can handle about 4-5 psi safely as daily drivers...

 
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do they make available internals for our cars...considering no one really has a turbo kit out yet...or is it all custom work?

 
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black99vtec did some custom internal work to his 7th gen civic... he claims that he destroked the engine and used parts from a 1.6 liter engine to strengthen his internals...

i think eagle is coming out with new forged rods for our civic's... i'm not too sure on anything else.... when all else fails... SEARCH

 
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hmm....

 
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You can get pistons custom made from Arias. You could also get a block guard from KMS. More stuff is slowely coming out though.

 
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Block Guards prevent catastrophic engine failure. Turns an open deck into a semi-closed deck. Specifically engineered for D17 engines (2001-2003 Civic).

ok so it helps, someone explain what the open deck to semi-closed deck means.

 
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I'll put it simply. Looking at the engine deck stock, you will see your 4 cylinders surrounded in a reservoir of coolant. Think of those cylinders, (remember this is a simple explaniation), as free standing pipes. The support comes from where they are set in the bottom of the engine. That is an open deck. A semi-closed deck has the block gaurd supporting the top of the cylinders. The coolant is still in between though. It's all about supporting the cylinder on both ends which reduces the chance of the cylinders shifting around.

 
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ahhh, i finally get it...thanks dude