What is needed to setup for a turbo kit?
What is needed to setup for a turbo kit?
I have a 2005 Honda Civic EX Coupe and was wondering what is needed to set it up for about 5 PSI of boost. And no I'm not forging my internals thats why low boost. I need to know a good ECU or chip I can use, where to find bigger injectors, and how to do a return fuel system. I do have a Cat-Back Exhaust, Exhaust Header (that will be swapped for the Turbo one) and Cold Air Intake already so I have all the bolt ons. Just need to know how to get it ready. Also I'm buying an ebay turbo BUT want to rebuild it with good internals. Who's the best to use?
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Re: What is needed to setup for a turbo kit?
5psi, stock internals can handle that no problem. Most people in the early-mid 00's said 8psi was about the max the stock block could handle. Recently, there have been stock internal builds up to 10psi.
Injectors, I'd go with 310cc RSX injectors. They're a direct fit, just about a 3/8" or so longer than OEM injectors
Engine management, the go-to for the D17 is KPro. Requires a donor K20 ECU tho. As far as piggyback units go, the AEM F/IC was probably one of the better ones out there. GReddy emanage was pretty up there, too, but the F/IC got better results, at least back in the day they did.
Find yourself a reputable tuner. The tune will make or break your setup.
While you're at it, do yourself a favor and get a wideband O2 sensor (AEM UEGO was a popular choice), and have the O2 bung welded into the downpipe. My D17 turbo setup, the turbo/manifold was designed in such a manner that it mated to the OE downpipe (well, my aftermarket downpipe, same position). I had the wideband sensor welded in right about where the downpipe makes that 90-degree bend. Also, if you can get your hands on a Crower D17 cam, you'll get even better results. Sadly, however, they've been discontinued.
If you want to upgrade your fuel pump, Walbro 255LPH was the pump of choice, and it's only about $100.
Injectors, I'd go with 310cc RSX injectors. They're a direct fit, just about a 3/8" or so longer than OEM injectors
Engine management, the go-to for the D17 is KPro. Requires a donor K20 ECU tho. As far as piggyback units go, the AEM F/IC was probably one of the better ones out there. GReddy emanage was pretty up there, too, but the F/IC got better results, at least back in the day they did.
Find yourself a reputable tuner. The tune will make or break your setup.
While you're at it, do yourself a favor and get a wideband O2 sensor (AEM UEGO was a popular choice), and have the O2 bung welded into the downpipe. My D17 turbo setup, the turbo/manifold was designed in such a manner that it mated to the OE downpipe (well, my aftermarket downpipe, same position). I had the wideband sensor welded in right about where the downpipe makes that 90-degree bend. Also, if you can get your hands on a Crower D17 cam, you'll get even better results. Sadly, however, they've been discontinued.
If you want to upgrade your fuel pump, Walbro 255LPH was the pump of choice, and it's only about $100.
Re: What is needed to setup for a turbo kit?
5psi, stock internals can handle that no problem. Most people in the early-mid 00's said 8psi was about the max the stock block could handle. Recently, there have been stock internal builds up to 10psi.
Injectors, I'd go with 310cc RSX injectors. They're a direct fit, just about a 3/8" or so longer than OEM injectors
Engine management, the go-to for the D17 is KPro. Requires a donor K20 ECU tho. As far as piggyback units go, the AEM F/IC was probably one of the better ones out there. GReddy emanage was pretty up there, too, but the F/IC got better results, at least back in the day they did.
Find yourself a reputable tuner. The tune will make or break your setup.
While you're at it, do yourself a favor and get a wideband O2 sensor (AEM UEGO was a popular choice), and have the O2 bung welded into the downpipe. My D17 turbo setup, the turbo/manifold was designed in such a manner that it mated to the OE downpipe (well, my aftermarket downpipe, same position). I had the wideband sensor welded in right about where the downpipe makes that 90-degree bend. Also, if you can get your hands on a Crower D17 cam, you'll get even better results. Sadly, however, they've been discontinued.
If you want to upgrade your fuel pump, Walbro 255LPH was the pump of choice, and it's only about $100.
Injectors, I'd go with 310cc RSX injectors. They're a direct fit, just about a 3/8" or so longer than OEM injectors
Engine management, the go-to for the D17 is KPro. Requires a donor K20 ECU tho. As far as piggyback units go, the AEM F/IC was probably one of the better ones out there. GReddy emanage was pretty up there, too, but the F/IC got better results, at least back in the day they did.
Find yourself a reputable tuner. The tune will make or break your setup.
While you're at it, do yourself a favor and get a wideband O2 sensor (AEM UEGO was a popular choice), and have the O2 bung welded into the downpipe. My D17 turbo setup, the turbo/manifold was designed in such a manner that it mated to the OE downpipe (well, my aftermarket downpipe, same position). I had the wideband sensor welded in right about where the downpipe makes that 90-degree bend. Also, if you can get your hands on a Crower D17 cam, you'll get even better results. Sadly, however, they've been discontinued.
If you want to upgrade your fuel pump, Walbro 255LPH was the pump of choice, and it's only about $100.
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Re: What is needed to setup for a turbo kit?
Well, you came to a good place to start. This forum started off as a 7thgen specific forum, and well, look at my join date. I've been here forever. lol
Honestly, these days, there isn't quite go-to places any more. Google search for what you're looking for, find the best price from a site with good ratings (what I've done before is search for "[website] reviews" and rifle through a bunch of them to get a general consensus). THmotorsports.com was great back in the mid 00's for parts. Kpro, you're probably better off either finding a D17 one used or grab you a donor RSX-S ECU and getting it from Hondata directly. Evasive motorsports has always been a good site, too.
I can understand why you'd get hate trying to boost a D17. The D17 wasn't very popular, and is kinda like the red-headed step-child of Honda engines. However, ****'s easy as hell to work on and it was still a lot of fun to mess around with. I had a wastegate issue with my boost setup and it was only putting out something like 3psi. Still made about 145whp, and that was enough to put a smile on my face.
Stick around, my dude, and you'll get a lot of good info from good people. The search function kinda sucks, but there's still good info that people didn't take off
Honestly, these days, there isn't quite go-to places any more. Google search for what you're looking for, find the best price from a site with good ratings (what I've done before is search for "[website] reviews" and rifle through a bunch of them to get a general consensus). THmotorsports.com was great back in the mid 00's for parts. Kpro, you're probably better off either finding a D17 one used or grab you a donor RSX-S ECU and getting it from Hondata directly. Evasive motorsports has always been a good site, too.
I can understand why you'd get hate trying to boost a D17. The D17 wasn't very popular, and is kinda like the red-headed step-child of Honda engines. However, ****'s easy as hell to work on and it was still a lot of fun to mess around with. I had a wastegate issue with my boost setup and it was only putting out something like 3psi. Still made about 145whp, and that was enough to put a smile on my face.
Stick around, my dude, and you'll get a lot of good info from good people. The search function kinda sucks, but there's still good info that people didn't take off
Re: What is needed to setup for a turbo kit?
Yeah I just want to have some fun and no ones wanted to help me on Facebook. This website has helped me decide to do a turbo kit because I want more power. Not going to get crazy numbers because its not going to be forged so like. Just wanting more fun. I already make 141 (calculated it using the HP formula) with my I/H/E which is 16 more than stock. I need to get my hands on a crower cam but as you may know its next to impossible and I'm heart broken because of it.
Re: What is needed to setup for a turbo kit?
Kpro does not support auto transmissions. You'd either have to find an option for tuning that supports an auto and hope it actually holds the power or manual swap first. I would do the swap before adding boost.
Re: What is needed to setup for a turbo kit?
Since you're not running forged internals, if it's not your daily, and you can find a quality tunner, I'd run the boost as high as the tunner thinks is safe, since a new used engine is only $200-$400 (if you install yourself).
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Re: What is needed to setup for a turbo kit?
Damn, I keep forgetting about that part. Nevertheless, back when Dezod (no longer in business, it seems) was doing a **** ton of R&D on the D17, they had great results with the AEM F/IC. No lie, I forgot who bought the one I had, otherwise I'd tell you to seek them out and see how it's going for them. I never used it, but bought it because I had plans to re-boost my car.. Then life caught up with me. lol
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Re: What is needed to setup for a turbo kit?
There’s a lot of hate on the D17, but you have lots of support here. Specially from the OGs here.
I second on swapping to a manual. Good luck!
I second on swapping to a manual. Good luck!
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