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Old Mar 19, 2004
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white smoke..what the hek is going on

ARGGHG!!! First I used to see bluish white smoke coming from my exhaust. I thought my oil was too thin (5w-30) so i switched to 10w-40. I still see a buncha white smoke. I can't find any oil leaks or anything of that nature. I checked the pipes and there is no oil residue in the pipes. My exhaust start smoking white hella after i go semi quick. I look at the exhaust pipe after and theres like drops of some liquid I have no clue what it is. I was wondering if i blew my headgasket so I did a compression test and I got like 180-185-175-180 something like that...seems okay there. Man...stressful. Anyone have any input why I have white smoke coming out of the exhaust? Also I heard a weird static noise while driving today..first time it happend ever. Kept happening for awhile but later it stopped. I HOPE that wasn't detonation....i wasn't really boosting so I don't think it could've been. Please help.
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i would just check your plugs and make sure they are alright but there could be alot of things that could be causing the problems if you dont know what to look for in your plugs just check with your local auto shop or look up some stuff on the internet
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If the smoke smells kinda sweet then its coolant
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static sounds are bad, stop driving til u find out wtf is going on, or ull have more problems than u really want to deal wtih
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White smoke usally means coolant is being combusted and sent through the cat. This is really bad because ethylene glycol (antifreeze) has a very low octane rating, which means the cylinder is going to fire before the piston reaches TDC adn you'l eventually blow your headgasket (assuming it is coolant).

So if this is the problem, how is the stuff getting in to the cylinder. well, there's a lot of way, most probable is there is you blew a small piece of your headgasket, a pin hole type that only expands under high stress situations. This will eventually expand and then you'll have some real big problems. To check this, next time you blow smoke, pull over fast and open the resivor for the coolant, NOT the raditor it's self, if it's pressurized (you'll hear a hissing sound as you unscrew the cap slowly) then you have feed back into the cooling system from the cylinder. After that, take it to a good mech and have them look at and see if they can locate the problem, I cn stress enough though to get multiple opions. Enough rambling, hope this helps a little.
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He said it was a bluish white smoke.

That usually means you're burning oil.

If its a very thin white smoke, then it's condensation. But from the looks of it....he's burning oil. Take the car to a shop and have them check it out. The bearings on your turbo may be bad....and this could be causing you to burn oil. THere are many other possible issues....but bluish white smoke means....you're burning oil.

And the static noise you heard....if it sounds like some coins rattling in a can...it is detonation (aka pinging)!!!

Check your oil and fill up as needed. It definitely sounds like you're burning oil.....and that's not a good thing.

I'm not sure if you're the one that posted this issue a while back asking if it was the type of oil that you were using that could be the problem and I (at that time) also suggested that you're burning oil. If that was your post....i hate to say I told you so.

get it checked out.
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Ahh... I missed blueish... my bad... I agree with oil burn.... so many potenial spots though, it's hard to say where it is coming from without seeing the car
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Originally posted by Jrfish007
.... so many potenial spots though, it's hard to say where it is coming from without seeing the car
Exactly. If he can't identify the source himself...he needs to take it to a shop.
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you need to buy an oil restricter... theres too much oil building up in the turbo and it's spilling out of the exhaust side of the turbo and burning...
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I had that happen to my old LeBaron... but it came out on the intake side and screwed all the sensors up...

If you do that though, how do you know there is enough oil going to the turbo to keep it running properly? I guess I'm not famliar with that specific device.
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okay well the rattlings noise was NOT detonation. My mudflap screw came off and it was rattling. The white smoke does not smell sweet. Man...this is so retarded.
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it can also can be a restricted oil drain line.check if its kinked or if you used silicone (oil drain line fitting to turbo)check if its blocking passage.
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i kinda have the same problem. when my car is at low idle or i go in reverse and stop suddenly i get a pretty decent amount of smoke, but not when i am actually driving at normal speed. i definately have oil going past the bearing in the turbo and into my exhaust. i called mike at sf and he said he would send me an oil restrictor they have tested. your return line may be kinked or maybe clogged some how. ask mike about the oil restrictor though. mine should be here in a couple days.

i have also read a couple places that garrett turbo's don't like a lot of pressure and the restrictor may be necessary
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Originally posted by fuchs
i kinda have the same problem. when my car is at low idle or i go in reverse and stop suddenly i get a pretty decent amount of smoke, but not when i am actually driving at normal speed. i definately have oil going past the bearing in the turbo and into my exhaust. i called mike at sf and he said he would send me an oil restrictor they have tested. your return line may be kinked or maybe clogged some how. ask mike about the oil restrictor though. mine should be here in a couple days.

i have also read a couple places that garrett turbo's don't like a lot of pressure and the restrictor may be necessary
I'm having the same problem. Oil is building up in the lower intercooler pipe. I heard that some buildup is normal but the amount I have is far from normal. Where does the oil restrictor go, before the feedline?
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but if it's oil burning, isn't it supposed to be blue? Damn I'm so confused...I have white smoke but it smells like burning, not like the sweet "your head gasket is blowN" smell. Smoke doesn't really come out during idle, only when you gas it. I didn't check my intercooler pipes to see if there was oil buildup but i did check the intake pipe, bonnet, etc. So again...white smoke, mostly comes out while i'm gassing it. Checked compression, 180-180-175-185 something like that. No oil in the intake/bonnet piping. No sweet smell...more like burning smell. Alright thanks guys
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But you said in your first post that it was a bluish white smoke. If it's oil burning, that's what it looks like. The smoke will not be completely BLUE.
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i have white smoke sometimes after i warm up my car in the morning on idle but it goes away after like a 5min drive.
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arite guys. Catalyst returned my PM and he said that he's going to send me an oil restrictor or whatever. I'll let you guys know if it works. Thanks for the support though.
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Originally posted by kikoman0
arite guys. Catalyst returned my PM and he said that he's going to send me an oil restrictor or whatever. I'll let you guys know if it works. Thanks for the support though.
Post more info on the oil restrictor... I am having some white smoke also.. I did an oil change and put in a double gaurd filter and 20w/50 and looked good tonight. I also pulled the thermostat and drilled three holes in it. I flushed coolant and added 70/30 coolant to water. Car is running cool and no smoke so far.. I guess the thicker oil might effect fuel economy a little. I also fixed my mil eliminator(the pin on the plug had come loose under engine torque.. Fixed that..

I checked my plugs am am running IK22's. No signs of problems and does not look like any head gasket leaks detected..
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The oil lines we supply with the kits supply way more oil than the turbo will ever need. And with some of the kits, the oil drain line will actually be filled up and the oil will be backed up into the turbo. This causes the turbo to burn the oil. The oil restrictor simply restricts the oil flow by about 25%. We have tested this on several cars and had no problems. We also contacted our turbo supplier, and he approved of it. This has solved over 90% of the smoking problems on the cars.

If you have one of our kits, and your car smokes, i will send you a restrictor. Is literally takes less than 2 mins to install. You simply undo your oil feed line from the turbo, slip in this restrictor in the fitting, then re-connect the line.
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Originally posted by Catalyst
The oil lines we supply with the kits supply way more oil than the turbo will ever need. And with some of the kits, the oil drain line will actually be filled up and the oil will be backed up into the turbo. This causes the turbo to burn the oil. The oil restrictor simply restricts the oil flow by about 25%. We have tested this on several cars and had no problems. We also contacted our turbo supplier, and he approved of it. This has solved over 90% of the smoking problems on the cars.

If you have one of our kits, and your car smokes, i will send you a restrictor. Is literally takes less than 2 mins to install. You simply undo your oil feed line from the turbo, slip in this restrictor in the fitting, then re-connect the line.
Cat please send me one I have the same problem. Mad oil in my lower IC pipe.

Guys don't forget to put new teflon tape on the threads before you screw the feed line back in. This will prevent leaks.
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it goes on the AN side of the fitting. There is no teflon required there.
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Alright that makes sense, mah bad.
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If you don't see signs of oil leaks or low compression there are three common problems that you can have.

1) Your oil feed line is too big allowing too much oil to be pushed through the turbo, leaking out of the seals.

2) Your oil return line is kinked or not big enough. It is restricting the passage of oil from the turbo back to the oil pan.

3) One or more of your valve seals can be leaking.
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good work angel
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Post more info on the oil restrictor... I am having some white smoke also.. I did an oil change and put in a double gaurd filter and 20w/50 and looked good tonight. I also pulled the thermostat and drilled three holes in it. I flushed coolant and added 70/30 coolant to water. Car is running cool and no smoke so far.. I guess the thicker oil might effect fuel economy a little. I also fixed my mil eliminator(the pin on the plug had come loose under engine torque.. Fixed that..

I checked my plugs am am running IK22's. No signs of problems and does not look like any head gasket leaks detected..
I am getting smoke again.. I think the thicker oil might be increasing the oil pressure. SF is sending me the restrictor. I will keep you posted..
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I am getting smoke again.. I think the thicker oil might be increasing the oil pressure. SF is sending me the restrictor. I will keep you posted..
I installed the oil restrictor today and switch to royal purple 5w/30 oil. I threw in a bolt of Royal purple ice into the radiator also.

Running good no smoke.

Thanks SF.. Great customer service.
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I installed the oil restrictor as well yesterday. so far so good...no more smoke. SF
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I installed the oil restrictor as well yesterday. so far so good...no more smoke. SF
Hey bro correct me if I am wrong, but did you get a drilled out rivet in the mail?

Mine is working great. Hopefully this did the trick.
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white smoke means OIL....you probably put way to much oil in....take out all the oil and do it over...just not as much oil...
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