General Automotive Discussion General automotive discussion and chat. Honda, Toyota, Chevrolet, Ford. It doesn't matter, just talk about it here.

Consequences of Redlining

Old May 21, 2003
  #31  
Drk01Civic's Avatar
Registered!!
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 626
Likes: 0
From: Quartz Hill, California, US
Rep Power: 0
Drk01Civic is an unknown quantity at this point
This thread is lame.
Reply
Old May 21, 2003
  #32  
dre2600's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered!!
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 1,597
Likes: 0
From: Edmonton
Rep Power: 0
dre2600 is an unknown quantity at this point
I haven't got either turbo or NOS, barring the removed spare tire my car is bone stock. But the RX was 1st gen, N/A.
Reply
Old May 21, 2003
  #33  
sc1golfr's Avatar
Registered!!
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 588
Likes: 0
From: Hilliard, Ohio, US
Rep Power: 0
sc1golfr is an unknown quantity at this point
watch out for whiplash when redlining
Reply
Old May 21, 2003
  #34  
Got Boost???'s Avatar
Don't drink and post, you will end up hilarious.
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 5,268
Likes: 1
From: In a Box
Rep Power: 343
Got Boost??? has a brilliant futureGot Boost??? has a brilliant futureGot Boost??? has a brilliant futureGot Boost??? has a brilliant futureGot Boost??? has a brilliant futureGot Boost??? has a brilliant futureGot Boost??? has a brilliant futureGot Boost??? has a brilliant futureGot Boost??? has a brilliant futureGot Boost??? has a brilliant futureGot Boost??? has a brilliant future
Am i the only one who finds this a little fishy.

I too drive an auto EX and im still wondering how you got it to 7500 RPM



ok will everyone please locate 7500 RPM on the tach pictured above, will you also notice that the redline STARTS at about 6750 RPM.

To answer the main posters question, going TO the redline is ok, your redline is a point your not supposed to cross, going past the redline is just plain stupid and is a great way to destroy a perfectly good engine

think of it this way

0 to 6750 RPM = Happy engine <-- happy because its doing what it was built to do
6751 and beyond = Sad engine <-- sad because its about to start spewing chunks of piston everywhere

Last edited by Got Boost???; May 21, 2003 at 11:44 PM.
Reply
Old May 21, 2003
  #35  
Mbow's Avatar
Registered!!
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 3,862
Likes: 0
From: Charlotte, North Carolina, US
Rep Power: 0
Mbow is an unknown quantity at this point
Imo, the fuel cutoff is there to prevent you from doing any major damage. If it was that bad, the cutoff would arise sooner. It's just common sense.

Also, obviously, the harder you run the engine, the faster it will wear out/loose compression. It's just common sense. The same way that downshifting to slow the car down puts more wear on the engine and clutch than simply using your brakes.

However, the engine was meant to redline and one should never have a problem with doing so on occasion. A little spirited driving once or twice a week never hurt anybody...
Reply
Old May 21, 2003
  #36  
Got Boost???'s Avatar
Don't drink and post, you will end up hilarious.
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 5,268
Likes: 1
From: In a Box
Rep Power: 343
Got Boost??? has a brilliant futureGot Boost??? has a brilliant futureGot Boost??? has a brilliant futureGot Boost??? has a brilliant futureGot Boost??? has a brilliant futureGot Boost??? has a brilliant futureGot Boost??? has a brilliant futureGot Boost??? has a brilliant futureGot Boost??? has a brilliant futureGot Boost??? has a brilliant futureGot Boost??? has a brilliant future
Imo, the fuel cutoff is there to prevent you from doing any major damage. If it was that bad, the cutoff would arise sooner. It's just common sense.
Most cars have there fuel cut off shortly after the redline normally about 100-400 RPM's after the redline, the fuel should have cutoff long before 7500 RPM's in his car
Reply
Old May 22, 2003
  #37  
Mbow's Avatar
Registered!!
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 3,862
Likes: 0
From: Charlotte, North Carolina, US
Rep Power: 0
Mbow is an unknown quantity at this point
Yea, I don't know how he arrived at 7500rpm. MY ex 5spd cuts off right at 7200....
Reply
Old May 22, 2003
  #38  
Got Boost???'s Avatar
Don't drink and post, you will end up hilarious.
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 5,268
Likes: 1
From: In a Box
Rep Power: 343
Got Boost??? has a brilliant futureGot Boost??? has a brilliant futureGot Boost??? has a brilliant futureGot Boost??? has a brilliant futureGot Boost??? has a brilliant futureGot Boost??? has a brilliant futureGot Boost??? has a brilliant futureGot Boost??? has a brilliant futureGot Boost??? has a brilliant futureGot Boost??? has a brilliant futureGot Boost??? has a brilliant future
After further testing i am now raising the :zbsflag:

Today i tried his little trick seeing if putting it in 2 will let you go past the redline, and it does let you go past it, well thats is until you reach 7000 RPM when your hitting the fuel cutoff. So his story about getting up to 7500 is complete BS.
Reply
Old May 23, 2003
  #39  
Chrissy's Avatar
Registered!!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 868
Likes: 1
From: here!
Rep Power: 0
Chrissy is an unknown quantity at this point
to the thread starter: did you modify your rev limiter? i would second the last post before mine if you didnt. and yes, i also drive an i/h/e auto ex with a stock ecu.
Reply
Old May 23, 2003
  #40  
NitehawkVTEC's Avatar
Registered!!
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 3,155
Likes: 0
From: Victoria. BC
Rep Power: 0
NitehawkVTEC is an unknown quantity at this point
rev limiter kicks in at 7 grand. only way to get it above that is downshift prematurely. can you even do that in an auto?
Reply
Old May 23, 2003
  #41  
SlammedBlueEM2's Avatar
All Eyes On Z
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 3,487
Likes: 0
From: asdfjkl;
Rep Power: 0
SlammedBlueEM2 is on a distinguished road
Originally posted by Drk01Civic
This thread is lame.
How about posting an intelligent reply? (Or even rating the thread... that is an option.)

Anyhoo, I pretty much agree with everyone as mostly everyone pretty much said the same thing over and over. This goes for engine maintenance, too. But only one person disagrees that you can cause premature wear shooting the tach needle to the redline constant enough.

I just wanted to say... 7,500 RPMs? I drive a 5-speed and it won't go passed 7,000 RPMs in idle or in gear. On the other hand, if you upgraded your ECU I stand understood.
Reply
Old May 23, 2003
  #42  
dre2600's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered!!
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 1,597
Likes: 0
From: Edmonton
Rep Power: 0
dre2600 is an unknown quantity at this point
No, I didn't modify the rev. limiter, it starting to cutoff approaching 7200rpm, but a block or two after the lights theres a pretty decent downhill incline, so it was still accelerating, though I think hitting the rev limiter, but still in 2nd gear.
Reply
Old May 23, 2003
  #43  
aznsmtboy's Avatar
Registered!!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 3,009
Likes: 0
From: San Francisco, California, US
Rep Power: 0
aznsmtboy is on a distinguished road
I've taken my car to 8,200 RPM'S ....but then again I drive a GS-R....sorry that was my sad attemtp to mention that I drive a GS-R....but without further ado, I also call BS (I rarely ever call BS on anyone's thread) on the 7500 Redline, the only way he could have done this, was misshifiting which, I don't think you can do in an Auto....to the topic starter: can you please enlighten us if the 7500 is true, what you did to change the fuel cutoff??, how did you misshift?....I'm thinking, you may have saw 7500 but it was actually only at 6500, maybe a typo???



edited to correct spelling error
Reply
Old May 23, 2003
  #44  
SlammedBlueEM2's Avatar
All Eyes On Z
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 3,487
Likes: 0
From: asdfjkl;
Rep Power: 0
SlammedBlueEM2 is on a distinguished road
Originally posted by aznsmtboy
I've taken my car to 8,200 RPM'S ....but then again I drive a GS-R....sorry that was my sad attemtp to mention that I drive a GS-R
It must sound like it's gonna blow up after 7,500. I remember when my friend redlined his GS-R... it doesn't sound too pretty but I do like the fact that it can rev that high.

On the other hand, I still haven't figured out why the B18C5 doesn't sound like it'll blow up compared to the other high revving B engines... B16 included.
Reply
Old May 23, 2003
  #45  
aznsmtboy's Avatar
Registered!!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 3,009
Likes: 0
From: San Francisco, California, US
Rep Power: 0
aznsmtboy is on a distinguished road
Originally posted by SlammedBlueEM2
It must sound like it's gonna blow up after 7,500. I remember when my friend redlined his GS-R... it doesn't sound too pretty but I do like the fact that it can rev that high.

On the other hand, I still haven't figured out why the B18C5 doesn't sound like it'll blow up compared to the other high revving B engines... B16 included.

well, I don't know how a engine that's going to blow up sounds like, but that's definitely not the feeling that I get when I rev that high....maybe something was wrong with your friend's car???? Have you been in more then one GS-R???
Reply
Old May 23, 2003
  #46  
mykungfuisthebest's Avatar
Registered!!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 440
Likes: 0
From: Orlando, Florida
Rep Power: 0
mykungfuisthebest is an unknown quantity at this point
rx7? 3/4 carlength? was he towing another car behind him? hehe jk... bad wear to head for redlining
Reply
Old May 23, 2003
  #47  
dre2600's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered!!
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 1,597
Likes: 0
From: Edmonton
Rep Power: 0
dre2600 is an unknown quantity at this point
It was a first gen Rx-7, I gotta keep saying this, N/A ones only had 140hp and weigh more than a Civic.

Also, I'm not bragging about hitting 7500rpm, I was just kinda worried about it.
Reply
Old May 23, 2003
  #48  
SlammedBlueEM2's Avatar
All Eyes On Z
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 3,487
Likes: 0
From: asdfjkl;
Rep Power: 0
SlammedBlueEM2 is on a distinguished road
Originally posted by aznsmtboy
well, I don't know how a engine that's going to blow up sounds like, but that's definitely not the feeling that I get when I rev that high....maybe something was wrong with your friend's car???? Have you been in more then one GS-R???
It's just that the engine sound gets very high pitched after 7,500 RPMs. It is a 97 GS-R and unfortunately that's the only GS-R I've been in. We had a member with a 99 Si before (NeoMagus) who pretty much thought the same about his Si engine.

Nah, trust me his motor is all good. All he has on it is an intake and header though.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Honda Civic Forum
Replies
Last Post
cferry7
6th Generation Civic 1996 - 2000
3
Oct 3, 2015 04:33 PM
Stock 99
General Automotive Discussion
6
Sep 5, 2015 06:06 AM
dantheman42
Mechanical Problems/Vehicle Issues and Fix-it Forum
2
Sep 4, 2015 01:10 PM
97-DX-Lover
Mechanical Problems/Vehicle Issues and Fix-it Forum
5
Jun 14, 2015 06:07 PM
Jeeves
General
18
Jan 31, 2002 08:18 AM


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:14 AM.