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every person that i know that drives an SUV uses it for their daily commute and never, not once, have they used it where my civic couldn't do the same thing. the best milage out of all of them is 22 mpg in a ford explorer sport.

several people from my company drive suv's and travel 70 to 150 miles a day for their commute. at 22 mpg they fill up every other day at least.

but at the same time, my boss has an s class mercades with the same low mpg. so it's not just suv drivers that have the problem. yes, there are more suv's on the road that any luxary car, but there is a higher total of low mpg cars than there are suv's on the road. if lexus and mercades were to get higher mpg in their big boat's on wheels, they would do a better job than getting higher mpg in their suv's that aren't as abundant.

 
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Excuse me!!...but to those ppl here who point to the US' refusal to sign the Kyoto protocol as evidence of Bush's and the US's attitude towards environmentalism....get the facts straight!

For anyone who thinks the Kyoto protocol would make any kind of measurable strides towards reducing global warming...think again. If all the developing countries achieved their targets, the amount of global emissions in 2012 would be a mere 1% less than in 1990.

Do you want to know why? Research it yourself and learn the facts before condemning ppl. Think... "EU Bubble" "China" "India". Then you'll know what a raw deal our President refused to sign!

 
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Amen.

Did you know a new study out of Oxford has proved that it was significantly hotter, way hotter than anything we've experience in recent years, during the Middle Ages. It must have been all those SUVs and factories. Damn serfs. The fact of the matter is for all this "global warming" we're creating it isnt even net 1 degree hotter on average than it was 100 years ago, yet it was over 10 degrees on average hotter during hte middle ages. Don't believe every thing these "intellectuals" who are so much smarter than us average folks say.
Kyoto treaty? I love tree huggers. They want they're good paying jobs, they want luxary, they want a stable economy, they want everything. You know what the kyoto treaty would have done to our economy? You think its bad now? IT would have devastated our economy

 
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These "intellectuals" know more than you think! Exactly don't believe everything you hear! Many scientists will even argue that the Earth is cooling, which has some truth to it. The Earth works on cycles, cooling and warming throughout its history. Either is not necessarily good. However the increase in greenhouse gasses has dramatically increased in the last 100-150 years starting with the industrial revolution. Cars and industrial plants account for the majority of gasses humans emit. Oil refineries refine oil and emit huge amounts of toxic gas and than cars burn that gas and emit even more greenhouse gasses. Not to mention that oil is finite and for the most of us, we will see the day where oil can and will no longer be the main source of energy for cars. Therefore the point of this argument is that we can try and curb our useage b/c currently we are not using our energy resources efficiently. Not only for the environment but the supply will not last for another 100yrs, so we better use it wisely. That's the point! As for the Kyoto Protocol, may in fact be a "raw deal" to us b/c there is no way we could possibly comply. And the fact that we backed out of something we already agreed to was my problem. How could our leaders not know what they were getting into? If it was such a bad deal for us than why did we agree to it in the first place is my question? The fact is that Bush has over turned many of the environmental policies that were meant to protect the environment and air quality. So backing out of the Kyoto Protocol, even though it would not have been economically bright decision, just made him look worse in the eyes of the global community.

 
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your right on one thing i dont care about the environment. yes i want my firebird for weekends so i can do 13's stock on the track and if you have a problem with that go to hell i dont care.

 
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Most people don't care, so it's no big surprise. The only people in the general public who tend to care are rich and/or well educated. The lower and lower middle class typically do not have the time nor the resources to care because they are usually too busy concerend with their own lives and families. This is not a put down of any type, its just a fact. That's the same problem with India and China. China's burning coal like there's no tomorrow, but they're just trying to make a living like everyone else in the world. Like you said, if you work hard you will get what you want, that's how most people feel including myself. However I will take into account mpg, as well as performance and find the best compromise. So I don't blame people who don't know any better, b/c most people just don't. You may not care what kind of world your children grow up in but I do. But that's just me.

 
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Intermezzo, developing countries have little conventional industry, whereas the US has the world's most developed. Its a matter of relativity, a country that can barely afford to feed it's people has a harder time cutting back emissions and installing pollution controls than one such as the US who can afford a greater deal of luxury.

The Kyoto protocal wasn't an answer to pollution, but it was a start. At least rolling back pollution levels a few percent and having them stable paves the way for further reductions. Ratifying the Kyoto treaty isn't necessarily a bad things either, as it creates jobs in other sectors of industry (ie: solar cell firms, pollution control firms, fuel cell firms, etc.).

 
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dre2600,

Actually, as a group whole, developing countries will be the largest contributors of greenhouse gases in the next 15 years due to industrialization, deforestation, increasing vehicle use and poor technology.

Also, historically, binding international treaties have usually failed miserably (ever heard of the Rio Earth Summit) when compared to changes that have been implemented through voluntary market-driven incentives.

 
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omgosh!!! lol these people are wack