honda and V8s
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honda and V8s
well, i got bored and searched and searched and searched. but found nothing. has honda ever made v8s before, v10s, v12s? also have they ever made engines that displaced more than 3.2 liters (nsx) ever?
none that i can think of that were ever made for production. they do have bigger engines. their F1 car is a V10, but even that is only a 3 litre engine that does over 18000 rpms
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The Pilot/MDX, RL and the Odyssey are 3.5L V6s. Other than that, the F1 engine is a V10, but only a 3L. I forget what CART rules are, but I think those are 4L Turbo V8s, so Honda has made V8s for race cars, but I don't think there was ever one in a road car.
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Rep Power: 399 As stated, honda uses bigger displacement and more cylinders in race applications only.
As for no replacement for displacement. The imports can get just as quick as the domestics using "technology" instead of "displacement". That technology being things like turbo's, variable timing systems, etc. Look at cheesefrog's 4 cylinder 10 second hatch. Can a mustang or camaro get to be a 10 second car? Sure. But beyond that, or even before so, they are going to have to use technology such as a turbo, in addition to their displacement, in order to break that barrier. Brute force will only get you so far.
As for no replacement for displacement. The imports can get just as quick as the domestics using "technology" instead of "displacement". That technology being things like turbo's, variable timing systems, etc. Look at cheesefrog's 4 cylinder 10 second hatch. Can a mustang or camaro get to be a 10 second car? Sure. But beyond that, or even before so, they are going to have to use technology such as a turbo, in addition to their displacement, in order to break that barrier. Brute force will only get you so far.
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no replacement for displacement!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
no replacement for displacement!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Look at the size of japan and the cost of living. they dont need big V8's and plus a lot of tax depends on the size of your car. So for that reason they build small displacement motors look at any japanese car manufacture.
If japan was the size of america they would probably build big V8 gas sucking cars. even the IS300 (altezza) is a N/A 3S-GE 4ycl in japan.
You have to consider other factors to understand why honda and other japanese auto makers dont build large displacement engines for other then racing applications and large luxury cars.
Look at the size of japan and the cost of living. they dont need big V8's and plus a lot of tax depends on the size of your car. So for that reason they build small displacement motors look at any japanese car manufacture.
If japan was the size of america they would probably build big V8 gas sucking cars. even the IS300 (altezza) is a N/A 3S-GE 4ycl in japan.
You have to consider other factors to understand why honda and other japanese auto makers dont build large displacement engines for other then racing applications and large luxury cars.
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As stated, honda uses bigger displacement and more cylinders in race applications only.
As for no replacement for displacement. The imports can get just as quick as the domestics using "technology" instead of "displacement". That technology being things like turbo's, variable timing systems, etc. Look at cheesefrog's 4 cylinder 10 second hatch. Can a mustang or camaro get to be a 10 second car? Sure. But beyond that, or even before so, they are going to have to use technology such as a turbo, in addition to their displacement, in order to break that barrier. Brute force will only get you so far.
As stated, honda uses bigger displacement and more cylinders in race applications only.
As for no replacement for displacement. The imports can get just as quick as the domestics using "technology" instead of "displacement". That technology being things like turbo's, variable timing systems, etc. Look at cheesefrog's 4 cylinder 10 second hatch. Can a mustang or camaro get to be a 10 second car? Sure. But beyond that, or even before so, they are going to have to use technology such as a turbo, in addition to their displacement, in order to break that barrier. Brute force will only get you so far.
as for imports i dont know one import 4 , 6 or rotary that broke 10's without any fi there may be one but i never saw it.
dont get me wrong i love REAL import race cars like the rx-7 , supra , nsx ect ect
brute force is the best way to go
and krayziebonet4l if you wont say something like that in my face dont say it on line.
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Rep Power: 0 saying "technology" is a replacement for more litres is the stupidest thing i have ever heard...ever. you mean to tell me that a big block cannot run everything a mouse engine can?
technology -->
lease: thats just an excuse.
technology -->
lease: thats just an excuse. 
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as for imports i dont know one import 4 , 6 or rotary that broke 10's without any fi there may be one but i never saw it.
as for imports i dont know one import 4 , 6 or rotary that broke 10's without any fi there may be one but i never saw it.
close enough for me
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i believe there is actually a 10 second NA civic hatch. i'll have to search around to see if i can find it
i believe there is actually a 10 second NA civic hatch. i'll have to search around to see if i can find it
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thats got to be the gayest thing i've ever heard. it may be true, but still sounds pretty damn gay....
thats got to be the gayest thing i've ever heard. it may be true, but still sounds pretty damn gay....
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saying "technology" is a replacement for more litres is the stupidest thing i have ever heard...ever. you mean to tell me that a big block cannot run everything a mouse engine can?
technology -->lease: thats just an excuse.
saying "technology" is a replacement for more litres is the stupidest thing i have ever heard...ever. you mean to tell me that a big block cannot run everything a mouse engine can?
technology -->
lease: thats just an excuse. 
Everyone has their own preferences in terms of engine types, can't we agree to disagree? No one is denying the power of displacement, just saying there's more than one way to go fast. Personally I like FI I-6 engines.
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Honda F1 has a v12 in it, all F1's do
Honda F1 has a v12 in it, all F1's do
The Honda RA003E is a 3.0L V10. As are all the other F1 Engines.
BAR Honda
Click Engine specs.
isn't the "technology" in imports there for economy? From what I understand, VTEC (the most prized technology of the civic & Honda) only serves to conserve power at higher levels of engine usage.
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heres the proof, so dont try to diss me,
http://www.f1db.com/car/part/engine/id/10300
heres the proof, so dont try to diss me,
http://www.f1db.com/car/part/engine/id/10300
LOOK AT THE DATE NUMB NUTS... it says 1992
and if you went to hondaracing.com, that's the IRL engine, NOT the FIA Formula One engine.
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Rep Power: 424 You said "Honda F1 has a v12 in it, all F1's do"... based on 3rd grade grammar, the tense of 'has' is present. You are saying that currently Honda has V12 engines. Which they do not. So you are wrong. At one point, they might have had larger engines, going back to the 70's or the turbo years, but then the phrase would have been ' Honda HAD V12s'. So learn to speak proper english and people won't misread your statements.
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Rep Power: 0 here are some other funny size/number of cylinder engines. 1.8L V6 (mazda mx-3) and the 3.0L I4 (porsche 968) besides the topic. are there any H8s, I8s, I5s, V4s, V20s, 7 cylinders, other strange engines like these?
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Rep Power: 0 Toyota & Nissan make big engines for their cars, but they did so only to compete in the luxury car market & the US market, as it is "a percieved need for these customers" for luxury cars & trucks. As Honda doesn't make trucks or have anything in the upper end luxury car market (the RL needs to be retired- doesn't count) And it doesn't make sense to make a V8 for just one car, Honda doesn't make it, yet. I'm sure there will eventually be a whole slew of Honda's w/ V8s, probably an RL & NSX to start out with. In europe, diesels are big.
As far as F1 is concerned, the cars need to have 3L engines, you can have as many cylinders as you want, it appears the optimum amount in terms of power: weight ratio for everyone happens to be 10 cylinders.
Why does everyone take things so personally ?!!
As far as F1 is concerned, the cars need to have 3L engines, you can have as many cylinders as you want, it appears the optimum amount in terms of power: weight ratio for everyone happens to be 10 cylinders.
Why does everyone take things so personally ?!!
