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your so damn funny. people get so mad over the dumbest ****. and my grammar is fine, im only a software test engineer/ and write defect doc's for hp, its a matter of the fact i dont give a **** what it looks like on a forum
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Rep Power: 0 Volvo makes I5s for some of their cars (or they used to, before Ford bought their car division)
You can find older cars w/ V- 16s
the Volkswagen W-8 engines
Then of course- rotary engines!! The RX-7s & the new iteration (the renesis engine in the RX- 8)
The miller- cycle v- 6 in the Mazda Millenia
The porsche/ subaru engines are caller boxers (the angle between cylinder banks is 180)
are some i could think off, right now
You can find older cars w/ V- 16s
the Volkswagen W-8 engines
Then of course- rotary engines!! The RX-7s & the new iteration (the renesis engine in the RX- 8)
The miller- cycle v- 6 in the Mazda Millenia
The porsche/ subaru engines are caller boxers (the angle between cylinder banks is 180)
are some i could think off, right now
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Originally posted by Chrissy
here are some other funny size/number of cylinder engines. 1.8L V6 (mazda mx-3) and the 3.0L I4 (porsche 968) besides the topic. are there any H8s, I8s, I5s, V4s, V20s, 7 cylinders, other strange engines like these?
here are some other funny size/number of cylinder engines. 1.8L V6 (mazda mx-3) and the 3.0L I4 (porsche 968) besides the topic. are there any H8s, I8s, I5s, V4s, V20s, 7 cylinders, other strange engines like these?
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There were straight 8s in older cars, studebakers and others i believe. Chevy's new colorado pick-up truck has an inline 5 in the high model (vigors have them too). a v-twin is a v2 right (harley)? thats different
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Rep Power: 399 Originally posted by XxSoVeReiGNxX
isn't the "technology" in imports there for economy? From what I understand, VTEC (the most prized technology of the civic & Honda) only serves to conserve power at higher levels of engine usage.
isn't the "technology" in imports there for economy? From what I understand, VTEC (the most prized technology of the civic & Honda) only serves to conserve power at higher levels of engine usage.
Originally posted by sadboy916
are you trying to say that a camaro cant get 10 seconds without a turbo or "technology" lol lol.
as for imports i dont know one import 4 , 6 or rotary that broke 10's without any fi there may be one but i never saw it.
dont get me wrong i love REAL import race cars like the rx-7 , supra , nsx ect ect
brute force is the best way to go
and krayziebonet4l if you wont say something like that in my face dont say it on line.
are you trying to say that a camaro cant get 10 seconds without a turbo or "technology" lol lol.
as for imports i dont know one import 4 , 6 or rotary that broke 10's without any fi there may be one but i never saw it.
dont get me wrong i love REAL import race cars like the rx-7 , supra , nsx ect ect
brute force is the best way to go
and krayziebonet4l if you wont say something like that in my face dont say it on line.
Originally posted by 1982
saying "technology" is a replacement for more litres is the stupidest thing i have ever heard...ever. you mean to tell me that a big block cannot run everything a mouse engine can?
technology -->
lease: thats just an excuse.
saying "technology" is a replacement for more litres is the stupidest thing i have ever heard...ever. you mean to tell me that a big block cannot run everything a mouse engine can?
technology -->
lease: thats just an excuse. 
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No, I never said a camaro or V8 can't hit 10's N/A. However, much beyond that and they will be using "technology" to get them there... like a turbo.
No, I never said a camaro or V8 can't hit 10's N/A. However, much beyond that and they will be using "technology" to get them there... like a turbo.
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my tires are currently at 30 psi..but im still slow as paint drying.
my tires are currently at 30 psi..but im still slow as paint drying.
tell me if i'm wrong.. i'm prob gonna get flamed to bits but i think he meant turbo
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Rep Power: 0 ' bout VTEC- all this does is slide the cam/ s over a little, to use a different set of cam lobes. This changes the lift/ duration on the intake/ exhaust valves. Most manufacturers use some form of valve timing control technology now for better EFFICIENCY (VVT for Toyota, VANOS for BMW etc)
As at different engine speeds, for optimum combustion, valve operation charateristics need to change, it depends purely on the designer's intent (which will be different for an eco car & for a performance car) where the car is going to be more efficient.
You could have the cam profile designed for better fuel efficiency or more power at a particular rev- range.
This is how companies like Gude can boast 18 BHP to the wheels by re- grinding our cam, as they do so focussing on power, rather than fuel efficiency
This just explains S2000man01's reply to XxSoVeReiGNxX
As at different engine speeds, for optimum combustion, valve operation charateristics need to change, it depends purely on the designer's intent (which will be different for an eco car & for a performance car) where the car is going to be more efficient.
You could have the cam profile designed for better fuel efficiency or more power at a particular rev- range.
This is how companies like Gude can boast 18 BHP to the wheels by re- grinding our cam, as they do so focussing on power, rather than fuel efficiency
This just explains S2000man01's reply to XxSoVeReiGNxX
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Rep Power: 399 Originally posted by Da2K1
' bout VTEC- all this does is slide the cam/ s over a little, to use a different set of cam lobes. This changes the lift/ duration on the intake/ exhaust valves. Most manufacturers use some form of valve timing control technology now for better EFFICIENCY (VVT for Toyota, VANOS for BMW etc)
As at different engine speeds, for optimum combustion, valve operation charateristics need to change, it depends purely on the designer's intent (which will be different for an eco car & for a performance car) where the car is going to be more efficient.
You could have the cam profile designed for better fuel efficiency or more power at a particular rev- range.
This is how companies like Gude can boast 18 BHP to the wheels by re- grinding our cam, as they do so focussing on power, rather than fuel efficiency
This just explains S2000man01's reply to XxSoVeReiGNxX
' bout VTEC- all this does is slide the cam/ s over a little, to use a different set of cam lobes. This changes the lift/ duration on the intake/ exhaust valves. Most manufacturers use some form of valve timing control technology now for better EFFICIENCY (VVT for Toyota, VANOS for BMW etc)
As at different engine speeds, for optimum combustion, valve operation charateristics need to change, it depends purely on the designer's intent (which will be different for an eco car & for a performance car) where the car is going to be more efficient.
You could have the cam profile designed for better fuel efficiency or more power at a particular rev- range.
This is how companies like Gude can boast 18 BHP to the wheels by re- grinding our cam, as they do so focussing on power, rather than fuel efficiency
This just explains S2000man01's reply to XxSoVeReiGNxX
But good post.
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Rep Power: 0 LoL. More idiotic debating about larger engines vs. smaller engines. I can't resist...
Bigger = Better.
350 cu. inch + turbo = Big Speed
102 cu. inch + turbo = Extra Speed
How do I explain this to the ignorant? Hmm.
Okay. People brag about a Civic beating a Viper. Civic has major boost from turbo and the works (almost every darn thing you can think of). Viper is stock or maybe has a minor upgrade. Okay, what if the Viper had the same upgrades? He will be making much more power from the upgrades than the smaller engine is from the same stuff. That is what the expression, "There is no replacement for displacement," is getting at. You can drop a turbo on a small engine and beat a much larger engine, but if it has the same turbo, it'll be much faster. Just that simple. As a few have already stated...it's a matter of preference. How often will you meet a highly-modified Camaro anyways? Go ahead and mod that 4.
Bigger = Better.
350 cu. inch + turbo = Big Speed
102 cu. inch + turbo = Extra Speed
How do I explain this to the ignorant? Hmm.
Okay. People brag about a Civic beating a Viper. Civic has major boost from turbo and the works (almost every darn thing you can think of). Viper is stock or maybe has a minor upgrade. Okay, what if the Viper had the same upgrades? He will be making much more power from the upgrades than the smaller engine is from the same stuff. That is what the expression, "There is no replacement for displacement," is getting at. You can drop a turbo on a small engine and beat a much larger engine, but if it has the same turbo, it'll be much faster. Just that simple. As a few have already stated...it's a matter of preference. How often will you meet a highly-modified Camaro anyways? Go ahead and mod that 4.
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Rep Power: 0 Why do people make Civics fast? First of all, theres something you need to take into account. What do you want to accomplish, go REALLY fast in a straight line, or have some ability to control your car? Large displacement means a larger engine, which means more weight. Last time I checked weight is the enemy of speed, braking, gas milage, suspension. With a lighter car, you can stop faster, potentially move quicker, control your car easier because less is required of your suspension, less is required of your brakes, and ultimately less is required of your engine. The reason, these V8s are so much faster than our cars, is because of their RWD and power to weight ratio. All things being equal a larger engine is going to produce more horsepower. Though, as this is often true in life, not all things are created equal. For example Fords 4.6 Liter V8 GT Mustang produces 260 HP, and 302 pounds of torque. Thats 56 HP per liter. As aposed to 1.7 liters and 127HP @ 74 HP per liter. Its all about what you want to accomplish, mid-engine design is better than rear or front engine design because of the 50/50 weight distrobution. There are a lot of reasons to choose a turbocharged four banger over a V8. Tell me, which is easier stopping a 3500LBS car, or a 2400LBS car? Moving a 2400lbs car or a 3500LBS car? You get so many ignorent people who believe the only car that can be fast is a V8, the concept of a "rice burner" is basically a motorcycle concept, make it have a decent amount of HP and weigh nothing, and you will haul ***. If you want your 7th Gen to haul ***, do a full scale weight reduction, and use Forced Induction. Ever wonder why motorcycles are so popular? Ya, its because of their huge V16 engines..... or maybe its because they dont weigh anything, they are versitle, can stop on a dime, and haul ***. Anyways, dont take this post too seriously, its all about what you like.
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Rep Power: 399 Originally posted by Logan
LoL. More idiotic debating about larger engines vs. smaller engines. I can't resist...
Bigger = Better.
350 cu. inch + turbo = Big Speed
102 cu. inch + turbo = Extra Speed
How do I explain this to the ignorant? Hmm.
Okay. People brag about a Civic beating a Viper. Civic has major boost from turbo and the works (almost every darn thing you can think of). Viper is stock or maybe has a minor upgrade. Okay, what if the Viper had the same upgrades? He will be making much more power from the upgrades than the smaller engine is from the same stuff. That is what the expression, "There is no replacement for displacement," is getting at. You can drop a turbo on a small engine and beat a much larger engine, but if it has the same turbo, it'll be much faster. Just that simple. As a few have already stated...it's a matter of preference. How often will you meet a highly-modified Camaro anyways? Go ahead and mod that 4.
LoL. More idiotic debating about larger engines vs. smaller engines. I can't resist...
Bigger = Better.
350 cu. inch + turbo = Big Speed
102 cu. inch + turbo = Extra Speed
How do I explain this to the ignorant? Hmm.
Okay. People brag about a Civic beating a Viper. Civic has major boost from turbo and the works (almost every darn thing you can think of). Viper is stock or maybe has a minor upgrade. Okay, what if the Viper had the same upgrades? He will be making much more power from the upgrades than the smaller engine is from the same stuff. That is what the expression, "There is no replacement for displacement," is getting at. You can drop a turbo on a small engine and beat a much larger engine, but if it has the same turbo, it'll be much faster. Just that simple. As a few have already stated...it's a matter of preference. How often will you meet a highly-modified Camaro anyways? Go ahead and mod that 4.
as for that viper, that also happens to be nowhere near stock. if I remember correctly it's damn near a 10 second viper. it may even have a blower.
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Rep Power: 349 and i can get on my hayabusa 1300 and beat the viper .... so your point is what.. i can take a civic and spend a 1/4 of what the viper cost and beat it
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Rep Power: 349 Originally posted by S2000man01
yeah, IMO cost is irrelevant
yeah, IMO cost is irrelevant
