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Old Mar 19, 2003
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He'll show up. Like I said, I see the kid all the time, I've just never talked to him about his car before. It still seems too unbelievable though. Maybe I'll see if he's around tonight.
Maybe he doesn't drive a 7th gen(drive a 6gen or something)? Or has 2 cars? I highly doubt it because the H22 is way too big.
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unless that car is owned by someone who is rich and could spend thousands upon thousands of dollars just thrown away, I gaurantee that pic is fake. I mean especially after you post the pic and say nothing. who owns it. where you saw it. where you got the pic from.

I gaurantee you it's BS. And at that crappy resolution, you can't even tell if it's photoshopped or not.
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How do you call that crappy resolution? It is a pretty good pic, granted it could be better, but I would like to see or hear more about this, as in how did he do the tranny and subframe work? Or maybe something about the accesories and what all had to be changed to make sure he still had them or did he just say F it and throw out all the power needs??

Tell us more, then you might have somebody to believe you
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Originally posted by S2000man01

I gaurantee you it's BS. And at that crappy resolution, you can't even tell if it's photoshopped or not.
haha, why are you so bloody hostile, I figured it would be a good laugh for everyone

and yes it's a :zbsflag: photochop LOL
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Originally posted by S2000man01
unless that car is owned by someone who is rich and could spend thousands upon thousands of dollars just thrown away, I gaurantee that pic is fake. I mean especially after you post the pic and say nothing. who owns it. where you saw it. where you got the pic from.

I gaurantee you it's BS. And at that crappy resolution, you can't even tell if it's photoshopped or not.
I don't know who posted that picture, but that isn't the car I'm talking about. The kid who said it DOES drive 7thGen though. It's an SSM EX coupe. I haven't seen him yet, but I might see him tonight. I never said that I believed the kid. I said in my post that I thought the H22 was too big. Just to clarify: I am not saying the kid has it. This whole post was to say that he told me has it and when I see him next, he will show me. He never said H22, but he said Prelude. Whether the kid knows **** about engines or not, him and his friends were pretty sure that the engine under the hood is not the original D17. If, by a miracle, he does have something worth pictures of, I will send them at full resolution, 2MB/picture quality and at different angles. But all I expect to see is a D17 and a kid who knows ****.

The pic that was posted was not mine, and has nothing to do with this kids car. So I don't know if it is BS.
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Originally posted by watewate
haha, why are you so bloody hostile, I figured it would be a good laugh for everyone

and yes it's a :zbsflag: photochop LOL
damn canadians.









(i am just kidding about the canadian remark. )
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Originally posted by GanariGuY
wow....... if this guy has this swap... he's one of a kind...
and I want pics.......
yea i want to see some pics before anything else
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Its not going to work on the 7gen civic. Why # 1 the why the motor sits there is no room on the 7gen just think about the size of that motor.#2 The axles on that car is lower than the 7gen like the older civics. #3 I would like to know who is going to hook up that harness on that car? #4 There is going to be no way that someone is just going to put the motor mounts in without cutting the car apart. And i could keep on and on, but we get the point. Its not going to happen with the 7gen. People will do the k20 before a h22.
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Anything is possible with a **** load of money. But I doubt that if he had that much money that he would be driving a civic.
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Or maybe he owns a garage.
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Ths swap is possible with the right amount of moeny and knowledge but the insurance part is all BS they dont ask what "car you have and then have you previously swapped or plan TO swap and engine in your current car?"
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Originally posted by gorbachev
looks ok to me i cant find any photochop work.
dear lord i hope that your kidding, yea you are because the internet loses something when it comes to sarcasim. You ARE kidding...right?
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It's all possible with money.
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you never know though. With money anything is possible and he might just be a baller. Or is on his parents tab!!!
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Originally posted by RedDragon333
Ths swap is possible with the right amount of moeny and knowledge but the insurance part is all BS they dont ask what "car you have and then have you previously swapped or plan TO swap and engine in your current car?"
I already said this. My insurance company requires all stamped codes on my car. It includes the engine and chassis. On my old car, my insurance got ****ed up because somebody wrote down a wrong engine code and they suspended my insurance. I'm sure if they know you have a more powerful engine in your car (based on the code) they will use it to their advantage to make more money.

I'll ask him details if I find out if it was really done. In the meantime, why doesn't anybody look at this? He said he had it done. http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...threadid=83066
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its possible, i hear its even been done. just need the mounts
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The insurance thing works like this: The engine isn't covered unless you tell them that you have an engine that isn't from the original car. You guys are right, they have no way of telling if you swapped the engine. IF and only if you tell them will they raise the price.
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how?! H and B series engines spin the opposite direction do they not?!? you can't close the hood because the the clearance... the only civic with an h22 in it is stephen papadakis's yellow aem civic and it fits because of a custom tube chasis and custom molded unibody.... i'm seriously calling :zbsflag: on this one... lease:
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Originally posted by iamboo
how?! H and B series engines spin the opposite direction do they not?!? you can't close the hood because the the clearance... the only civic with an h22 in it is stephen papadakis's yellow aem civic and it fits because of a custom tube chasis and custom molded unibody.... i'm seriously calling :zbsflag: on this one... lease:
Maybe you are thinking of the old honda engines and how they spin in the opposite direction of the new K-series.......and no........there are other civics with H22's in them actually......plenty of them, its not that uncommon of a swap in previous gen civics, if you don't mind a couple of broken axles once and a while
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i realize that other civic's DO have h22 swap in them... i'm just refering to the 7th gen's
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Originally posted by iamboo
how?! H and B series engines spin the opposite direction do they not?!? you can't close the hood because the the clearance... the only civic with an h22 in it is stephen papadakis's yellow aem civic and it fits because of a custom tube chasis and custom molded unibody.... i'm seriously calling :zbsflag: on this one... lease:
But what does the way the motor spins have to do with anything? That would be a problem if you used say a H22 motor and hooked it up to a D17 Tranny, which would be impossible. But I'm assuming he is using a H-series tranny, so explain how the way it spins would affect the car?
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Originally posted by Hwoody77
But what does the way the motor spins have to do with anything? That would be a problem if you used say a H22 motor and hooked it up to a D17 Tranny, which would be impossible. But I'm assuming he is using a H-series tranny, so explain how the way it spins would affect the car?
Because the H-series tranny will NOT fit in the 7th gen without MAJOR fabrication and body work.... including pushing your firewall back. So unless you're on a tube frame, i doubt it's going to happen.

The H22 will NOT fit in a 7th gen for the same reason a B series won't fit in a 7th gen.

The tranny placement is completely different and the mounts just wouldn't be strong enough, the way you'd have to modify them. You'd need to basically change the frame, sub frame work and push the firewall back. Anything is possible with lots and lots of money, but don't hold your breath.
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Don't listen to S2000man01...I highly doubt he's an auto. engineer and is lying out his teeth. Check the H22A post out in the Tech forum...
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Originally posted by CK12k
Don't listen to S2000man01...I highly doubt he's an auto. engineer and is lying out his teeth. Check the H22A post out in the Tech forum...
I may not be an auto mechanic, but I'm also not a moron. Many will vouch for me on this site, so don't play that game my friend. I know more than you could even make up.
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Originally posted by S2000man01
I may not be an auto mechanic, but I'm also not a moron. Many will vouch for me on this site, so don't play that game my friend. I know more than you could even make up.

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Many may vouch for you on this site, and that's great. But whenever I get a hold of a camera, many will vouch how ignorant you are, and how insulting you are when someone proves you wrong. I'm not a liar, and I didn't create a extensive post just for laughs. I wrote the post to help stop confusion. I just think you can't handle the fact that a huge motor/tranny like the H22 can fit in our 01'+ Honda Civics...and you use quick, witty remarks to back ya' *** up.
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Really? well, let me make this pure and simple for you. First off, I called the place in the OTHER thread you mentioned, talking about blah blah, they made a kit for an H22 to fit in a 7th gen. They had NO CLUE WHATSOEVER what you were talking about, and said they don't make ANY mounting kits for the 7th gen.

Secondly, this is why you are full of crap.


A. You have to use a tranny to mount this monstrous engine in the 7th gen. So, what about the D17 tranny? Well, the D17 tranny connects to the engine on the OPPOSITE SIDE that the H22 tranny hooks up. So the D17 tranny is sitting on the complete wrong side.

B. Oh, well use the H22 tranny you say? Well, now you have a huge engine crunched into your engine bay, however the subframe and firewall are in the way of where the H22 tranny would go. (since the tranny was meant to be on the other side) For those who know, the H22 tranny BARELY FITS in a 6th gen civic, and even then, you have to cut out part of your sub-frame. However, the particular area the tranny would have to sit in the 7th gen has EVEN LESS room than the 6th gen did. Hence having to cut out subframe and remove or push back the firewall.

However, according to captain america here, all he needed was a "mounting kit" from this company, and it was not expensive at all.

There, how's that for "backin ma' *** up"?
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Originally posted by S2000man01


There, how's that for "backin ma' *** up"?
What can i say?........... :bow:

But it doesn't hurt to see some pics... if any.

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this is getting really interesting... h22 in a 7th gen? umm... well i dunno. but the k20a1 is superior for our 7th gens, oh wait, i dont own a 7th gen civic anymore!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but a nice prelude vtec and a 1990 300zx tt. now i h8 car insurance!



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