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Hey, when you are breaking in a 2002 civic, do you press in the clutch before you press in the break?? Or do you just put the car in neutral and press the break?

 
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What ??









oh...and what is the 'break'


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oh god..

u can brake when you're in gear, but as your speed goes down or rpms drops you can either downshift to a lower gear or just put it in neutral when u're coming to a stop. I ALWAYS leave the car in gear. When i'm at a complete stop I hold the clutch down and brake, but the stick is always in gear.

Do i have to post the whole speel about that again?

 
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Okay, from a search on downshifting.. some posts others and i have made.

To downshift or not to downshift (ie: sticking it in neutral and coasting)

Post 1. by N00dleboy

Downshift. Putting it to neutral and braking is for newbies. When properly downshifting (rev-matching) , it is virtually the same as upshifting when accelerating. What if a deer ran across the road and you needed to accelerate out of the way? The time for you to determine the appropriate gear and then depress the clutch then shift into gear, release the clutch, is WAY slower than if you already had the car in gear.

Post 2. by LikeWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

YOU ARE NEVER SUPPOSED TO TAKE YOUR CAR OUT OF GEAR (except for the momentary time to shift) UNLESS YOU ARE AT A COMPLETE STOP.

and for the deaf...

YOU ARE NEVER SUPPOSED TO TAKE YOUR CAR OUT OF GEAR (except for the momentary time to shift) UNLESS YOU ARE AT A COMPLETE STOP.

and the retarded...

YOU ARE NEVER SUPPOSED TO TAKE YOUR CAR OUT OF GEAR (except for the momentary time to shift) UNLESS YOU ARE AT A COMPLETE STOP.

when the car is taken out of gear you are not controling the car...the car is controling you. think about that one

Post 3. by htowncivicEX

Exactly - when driving a car, you have only two forms of control over the car: steering wheel and throttle. If you are out of gear, you can't use the throttle to move the car and have lost 50% of your control over the vehicle. ALWAYS try to keep the car in gear whenever possible.

Post 4. by CapYoda

I downshift. about 90% of the time.

its generally a better idea to stay in gear.

how will it kill ur clutch? If you do it properly, choosing the right gear, being at the right rpm and speed, you should be putting the same amount of stress you put on ur clutch when you shift up.

granted, this does mean you're using ur clutch and tranny more, but I still think you should stay in gear. its safer.

besides, whats the point of getting a manual? so you have more control over the car, so use that control.

Post 5. by roaringpanda

I take it these driving schools are simple driver's license/training schools? Most every performance driving school will agree with you... downshift > braking.

downshifting isn't bad on your transmission/clutch (unless you do it wrong). Always try to keep the RPMs around the torque peak. This is more for safety reasons. More accidents are avoided by evasive maneuver than braking. If you don't downshift, a sudden split-second maneuver to avoid an accident (or debris in the road) wouldn't be too effective. Downshifting (or engine braking) could be the difference between torquing out of something's way or getting hit by it.

In regards to downshifting being "bad for the car" ... if properly done it won't do much at all. Keeping a little rev-match, feathering the clutch a bit, etc. It may wear the clutch out *slightly* faster. It is true that brakes are MUCH cheaper than drivetrain parts, but what's more valuable, your life or your clutch?

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So there you have it.

 
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LOL
I was just pickin, but thanks.
Very informative post.

 
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The honda tech I spoke with at the dealership told me to always take the car out of gear once your at a complete stop (i.e. don't hold the clutch down while at a light) He said that is one of the quickest ways to burn out your clutch. True?

 
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To BURN the clutch? What the hell is he smokin? It does nothing but it's pointless to floor the clutch at a full stop.

 
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Must have been HondaBud, which causes a person to spew out misinformation & deny problems with all autos under warranty. Seriously though, thanks for posting that, cause he had me thinking I had to take my foot off the clutch almost immediately after engaging it.

 
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False. that tech needs to be fired.

 
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Well, this is good news for me though! This is my first manual tranny and I thought it was bad to feather the clutch and engage it during stops. Glad that was BS. I guess I shouldn't have listened to him, since he wouldn't admit my engine was (and still is!) rattling every time I accelerate. I think I will take it back to the dealership before I install my SRI, that way they can't talk smack.

 
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if u change your transmiton from auto to manual is it true ur clutch will go out on you every 5,000 miles or so?

 
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?????????????

 
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no. why the heck would you think that?

 
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Nahh if I am going to be sitting at a light for awhile or something I will take the car out of gear and give my foot a break. Yeah I doubt your clutch would go out that often.

Nick

 
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